@cleoabram: Reply to @shedoesitonabudget this is an unpublished clip from my episode “Do I want kids” for @voxdotcom, with @jossfong #parentsoftiktok #childless

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amandasnotfunny
Amanda B :
I think this is interesting with how it intersects with class…like your ability to “live a pleasant life” is very dependent on having help and money
2021-08-17 16:10:04
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renegadebakerusa
Renegade Baker :
I wanted kids so bad. I now have two and wish I’d had just got a puppy and stayed childless. I love them. It’s just not what I thought it would be.
2021-08-17 17:26:41
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katiemacdermid
Katie MacDermid :
I would say you do lose a lot of your old self but you discover a lot too and they aren’t small forever!
2021-08-17 14:47:45
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jefcaine
Jef Caine :
The problem is when a parent says ‘kids are hard but it’s worth it’ there’s no way to know if they’re lying or not
2021-08-18 21:44:10
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itsanavocado5
Carys🤸‍♂️ :
At the end of the day they are a burden - can be a good burden but they’re a burden all the same who rely on your time & devotion. I’m 22 & every day-
2021-08-17 15:58:16
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empathetichater
Hal :
I also think it’s not healthy for the child to be seen as or referred to as “the most important thing” or “my main source of joy”
2021-08-17 17:57:27
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liveshivv
liveshivv :
I struggle with this so much. I feel like I’m on a clock but I don’t feel ready at all. But do I have to have kids? Am I ever ready? AHHHHH
2021-08-17 14:15:06
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sarahaileenstudio
SarahAileenStudio :
I’m 40 and am thrilled to not have kids. I’ve known I didn’t want kids since I was 19, and am old enough now that people finally believe me 😅
2021-08-17 14:50:17
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courtney_casci
Courtney_casci :
I’m a parent. Had I known how hard it truly is, I would’ve made different choices. I love my kids without end, but I don’t find joy in motherhood.
2021-08-18 00:15:46
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cleoabram
Cleo Abram :
I’d love to hear thoughts from parents and non-parents here ❤️
2021-08-17 14:08:51
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varspin
kelly.exe :
The biggest thing to remember is that either way you can live a life full of joy. Kids or no kids, you’ll be fine
2021-08-17 18:36:24
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cptramius
CptRamius :
We raised two amazing kids and still had our own time. You can find a balance. But if you don’t have kids you can’t possibly understand.
2021-08-17 15:03:23
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si372717
user3504210640677 :
I do not like children. I do not find them charming or endearing. Some people just don’t like kids it’s not always that deep
2021-08-17 17:26:49
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matduf1
Mat :
childfree here, but vanilla "happiness" and "joy" probably aren't the right measures for parenthood vs. fulfillment or meaning.
2021-08-17 16:34:55
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umamikami
umamikami :
The best way I can describe it is that when we had our kid, the lines around what defined me as “me” grew to include him.
2021-08-17 14:26:08
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empresssophie
Sophie Baum :
It’s not ‘a life without joy’ if you don’t have kids but it is a type and intensity of joy that I had never felt before being a parent.
2021-08-17 16:19:40
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bgracypoo
b g g 🐸🌊 :
Something I just realized it that having those other sources of joy would be so much easier if our society were more communal. It takes a village!
2021-08-30 14:44:30
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carly_smith33
Carly Smith :
i’m not ashamed to admit i’m too selfish to have kids, I love my niece and nephew but a weekend watching them is too much for me and i’m 29 🤷🏼‍♀️
2021-08-17 18:45:42
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adam.the.cook
Adam Marquez :
This feels a little biased. So much to take in to account.. like where the parents are financially, age. Etc
2021-08-17 14:15:28
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phoebewalleroverpass
tori :
So many people should just not be parents. They aren't emotionally mature enough or far enough on their healing journey before they have kids.
2021-08-17 17:06:39
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emcee326
Michael Cahill :
I disagree. I have two kids who are a huge part of my joy but not because they are the only thing. There are other things
2021-08-17 14:25:08
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domperignonorbust
🩷🎀💄 :
I really want ONE kid and get a lot of judgment for it. I just feel like this way the responsibility isn’t so overwhelming the way it is having 2 or 3
2021-08-17 17:18:09
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nanazmashhood
Nanaz 🌻 :
I actually can't watch this series anymore because i need to tell myself that I don't regret having kids before I end up resenting them and content
2021-08-17 19:17:40
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mblacho
Marni Blachowicz :
It only wipes those other sources of pleasure out for a minute. Each year you increasingly get time for them back.
2021-08-18 11:48:51
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domesticblisters
Kc Davis :
yeah but if my kids went away tomorrow no amount of hobbies or sunday brunches would be joyful enough.
2021-09-05 19:27:33
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lucycaucus
Duncan :
My mum cant handle that I have my own life/morals/views and I kind of get. She put everything into it only to create someone she wouldn’t want to meet
2021-08-19 01:46:02
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que.sera.sarah7
Que Sera Sarah :
having a kid wiped out my unhealthy habits but I still have time for all my healthy ones - reading, exercise, crafts, video games
2021-08-17 19:05:01
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j_moe_
J_Moe :
I’m a parent of two and this is a really hard topic for me. I would literally die for my children without a second thought, but at the same time I (1)
2021-08-17 18:23:53
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crspybtz
crispybitz :
It’s valid that they are the greatest joy, but bc to ppl who want kids, that’s their idea of joy. Some ppl don’t find joy in parenting - also valid.
2021-08-18 02:33:58
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literallyjustme1234
Justthat :
I really don't relate to this as a parent. I still have hobbies and pass times, it is harder to find time for them but they do exist. If anythind, my
2021-08-17 16:47:40
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kimm_i
Kimberly Ibarra :
This entire episode is everything. Thank you so much for the honest conversation. ✨
2021-08-17 21:57:02
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elishadyer
Elisha DeLaine Dyer :
My husband and I are enthusiastically child free. We are teachers
2021-08-17 19:45:42
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thewelldressedhome
Jess | Home + Style :
As the person who wrote the comment, I feel led to say more. My children are my joy source and to me it is worth it. My point was…it’s just been
2021-08-18 03:41:32
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kellieburns7
Kellie Burns :
I don’t really agree that other forms of joy are “wiped out” when you become a parent. There is less time for them, but they are that much sweeter.
2021-08-17 18:49:28
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ashleykoukla
ashleykoukla :
My nieces bring me so much joy but I know if I have children I will be miserable.
2021-08-17 19:07:30
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tothemoonandtosaturn
Vertebrate :
My dad says i am the most important thing in his life but we barely talk or interact? What does that say about our love?
2021-08-17 21:30:30
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bluebubble_25
BubbleBlue :
In my 40’s I grieved not bring a mother, it was a source of intense pain. Now at 50 I’m realizing how relieved I am,especially the state of this world
2021-08-17 18:11:35
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wonderwomanjenn
Jennifer Elizabeth :
I think this is really the first time in history that we look at not having kids as an option. I don’t think our parnts really ever thought about It
2021-08-18 20:09:22
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adam.the.cook
Adam Marquez :
Also you don’t understand the “joy” unless you have your own kid.. my sisters has kids doesn’t count lol
2021-08-17 14:16:37
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mxlpxl
Mxlpxl :
I love my son very much. I used to spend every waking moment playing video games and anime and thought that was the life. but comparing that joy to
2021-08-17 15:06:52
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regina.felangie
Reginafalange :
It’s sad how many people regret having kids. I’m so glad I had mine but I think if you’re on the fence don’t do it
2021-08-17 23:53:39
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rascals75
Blue :
I’m getting Borne Ultimatum vibes from the lighting and camera movements 😌🥰
2021-08-17 14:33:05
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caitsith21
Marc :
To be honest our modern society is so easy to live in that i was bored to death before i had children. No that problem is gone 😅
2021-08-17 16:54:29
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tee.._..tee
Tee-Tee 🇨🇦 🏳️‍🌈 :
That’s a fair point. I do miss my free self, but I am more grounded. More aware, I see something more than myself. It’s strange to put into words.
2021-08-17 15:38:01
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lindsayy_lmao
Linds xoxo :
Parenting involves immense physical and emotional sacrifice. For some people, kids fulfill needs, and for others, it’s just not worth it
2021-08-18 00:26:32
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art_art_bo_bart
Arty Party :
I don’t agree with this at all- I assess how I’m feeling, if I need the space to do the activity that’s just for me, I let my kid know.
2021-08-18 03:47:39
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5dollahbiggiebag
5dollahbiggiebag :
Real talk- I was ambivalent and only had kids bc my husband wanted them 😳 fast forward 15 years- they are my moon and stars ❤️❤️
2021-08-17 20:59:22
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esqesqe
E :
This also feels like it hinges on our obsession with being young. As if by the time kids leave life is alrady over. It’s not! You’re still SO young!!
2021-08-17 17:06:49
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