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GlamourPossum :
Mrs thenardier is another one. Because large undesirable women from poor backgrounds seem to be read that way 🤷♀️
2021-11-05 15:08:09
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Jessica Penhallow :
Mama Morton in Chicago is a positive example of a fat coded character. She's often played by a larger actress but has a sexually suggestive song.
2021-11-07 10:15:27
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Austin Michael :
I love how Mrs thenardier is fat coded but eponine can't be fat because "they're starving" and done get me started on male presenting roles.
2021-11-06 06:18:46
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Song Bird’s Story 🇵🇸🏳️🌈 :
While opera is still fatphobic, this is where it is different from MT. No one would ever tell a soprano to sing a mezzo role, no matter their size.
2021-11-05 15:32:36
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PedagogyofChaos :
the nurse in Romeo and Juliet. Always nurses and marms
2021-11-05 15:06:00
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Reading_wizard :
I wonder if this is connected to the idea that in high school a lot of not super skinny actresses get cast as the old women in plays alot.
2021-11-05 15:33:36
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Oh the Spiermanity! :
Mrs Lovett also carries associations of gluttony - it's her idea to eat Sweeney's victims - and her specific villainy has this food-motivated quality
2021-11-13 20:04:03
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Stephlorenzo87 :
I was Mrs. Pugh in Annie, I was the biggest girl in the cast. I was 14.
2021-11-05 14:51:23
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Laura • body friendly fitness :
do you think that with Lovett & Thenardier it’s like, the “corruption” of the Mother archetype?? like they’re “maternal” but don’t “perform it” well?
2021-11-05 15:48:19
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sirenmelody82 :
bakers wife - into the woods... pretty much any character that bakes...
2021-11-06 03:36:24
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🤠 Allison 🪩 :
I was always told I was a “character actress”. I was always going to be an outrageous, comic relief, side character. But they’re the most fun so…
2021-11-05 14:52:42
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GwendolynArt :
Carlotta for phantom the opera
2021-11-07 21:01:09
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☁️🧸☁️ :
Becky in Waitress
2021-11-09 07:43:14
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Emmalie Handley :
I feel like Cindy’s stepmom in ITTW can be as well, like she has been played by skinny actresses but it’s also where you put fat actresses
2021-11-05 15:37:26
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juliegalorenzocoaching :
any role i’ve ever played inc mrs lovett
2021-11-05 16:10:19
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IVY :
Other examples of this would make a really cool series
2021-11-05 16:58:08
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Julia :
I agree with a lot of what you've mentioned here but I will admit I don't think it's as nuanced as that.
2021-11-05 15:45:36
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Bettie Wood :
Thinking about that time my mom was told she had the “face of an ingenue but the body of a character actress” 🙃
2021-11-05 17:22:33
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Alex243 :
I think women who are made out to be undesirable are normally pushed to larger actors and actresses as they act as if fat equals that role
2021-11-05 15:46:51
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Haley Marie Clark :
And that’s she desperate for love, tons of desperate, and or comedic roles are fat coded in theater
2021-11-05 15:39:25
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Andie 💕 :
yessssssss, I also see a flip side where I feel like some characters have fat girl energy and wish they would get cast more like beatrice from muchado
2021-11-05 15:41:11
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Chellybean :
I feel like everyone in theatre is assumed thin and abled unless explicitly stated otherwise. It’s a good reason for casting directors to make sure
2021-11-05 16:16:38
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kmclanek :
Rose from Dogfight
2021-11-07 05:01:29
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Lu :
The “fat Cockney” curse is real!
2021-11-05 15:05:32
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jilleatsapples 💙🤍 :
Yeeep. Side note ur makeup is so pretty
2021-11-05 15:53:29
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not a content creator :
the "fat is unfeminine" is particularly bad and is upheld by more than just theatre: I used to model, and as a size 10, I was considered a plus sized
2021-11-14 08:50:12
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charley ⁉️⁉️ :
lovett 🤝 widow corney 🤝 madame thenardier 🤝 jennyanydots (always being played by plus size actresses for no reason)
2022-04-01 17:59:57
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lia castellanos :
ursula and mrs pots
2021-11-05 20:55:16
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st4rb0rn3 :
Jenna Rolan from BMC too!!
2021-11-11 14:04:23
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Angel Perez :
I always thought it was because she was viewed as monstrous and people are trying to associate fattness with doing horrible things
2021-11-05 15:35:21
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allie ✨ :
Also the fact that she’s a baker plays into it too. So often the only jobs fat characters can have in fiction are cook or baker.
2021-11-07 01:10:23
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Chrisy/Vanta Black :
usually moms or matrinley characters who don’t have do be attractive, because we don’t get to be fat AND hot
2021-11-10 03:20:25
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Michelle :
Ethel in Music Man is also a typical fat role too. Id love to play Mrs. Lovett though.
2021-11-05 21:39:52
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Vanessa :
I feel like Asaka in once on this island more often gets played by plus size actors even though there’s no mention of size
2021-11-05 21:34:46
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Megan Gibbons :
Also the correlation of putting fat people into alto roles as if big body automatically equals a big voice. Fat sopranos exist too.
2021-11-19 16:44:25
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Ronnie Powell :
even though she's stated in the text as fat, Martha dunstock from Heathers.
2021-11-13 03:20:30
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Taylor♉ :
I straight up telling the casting director "Place me somewhere else or not at all" if they try to cast me for a role they typically give fat people
2021-11-09 18:54:20
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Victoria :
this is quite literally why I did Mrs Lovett for Halloween, because nobody would tell me I wasn't thin enough...
2021-11-10 00:47:15
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kels :
motherly characters always
2021-11-09 12:24:43
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crushed.sequin :
I completely understand but I never saw the character coded as fat because at my school Mrs. Lovett was played by a skinny person. 🤷🏻♀️
2021-11-05 16:47:57
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Roo B ♿🏳️🌈 :
there's also the fact she's a cook, fatness and chefs are a common trope too
2021-11-12 14:08:45
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XP Cali Docious :
Possibly Mrs. Potts as well, probably because (a) mom and (b) teapot?
2021-11-09 17:06:59
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exhaustedcostumer :
she's also deeply amoral. we are fine with fat/large women (Ursula, Trunchbull, the Stepsisters) playing roles that vilify them.
2021-11-07 16:05:46
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Lori Dehn Falce :
She’s also amoral and fatness is seen as a moral failure.
2021-11-05 16:23:42
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rachelelizabeth214 :
Wait, weren’t wealthy people the ones that were fat during that time?
2021-11-05 15:19:32
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ur mom :
Unrelated, but we have footloose auditions coming up and I REALLY want Rusty but I’m afraid that Ethel and Vi are gonna haunt me :/
2021-11-07 06:57:23
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sam :
Literally because she works and food and has unrequited love 😭 let fat women be romantic leadssss
2022-04-28 05:41:36
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Ophelia ✨🍉 :
lovett is literally the first character i thought of-
2021-11-07 03:06:12
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Kiz :
The teapot from beauty and the beast!!
2021-11-11 10:06:06
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Amy 🇬🇧🏳️🌈 :
shes also a Mrs, so women who are married esp widowed are seen as letting themselves go.
2021-11-07 19:44:57
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