@professorneil: Reply to @wallsareclosingin This is less an indictment of the show than it is of heteronormativity’s hold on us #loki #marvel #mcu #heteronormativity

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victoriaorgana
🇨🇦 @victoriaorgana ig/yt :
I think where the problem more so is that there is only ONE femme presenting Loki at all, Sylvie should have had
2022-01-30 03:20:56
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serrena24
Serrena 🇺🇸 :
Many bisexual people said they appreciated the representation of the Loki/Sylvie relationship.
2022-01-30 03:54:57
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faintlya
FaintlyA :
I agree that it's palatable, but to me the MCU Loki falls in love with Sylvie mainly because she challenged Loki on an intellectual level.
2022-01-30 03:01:08
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vaciito
Vaciito :
I wish they would have had a familial relationship, they could have offered each other the love they had always wanted from their siblings/parents.
2022-01-30 03:03:23
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toehio
Tyler :
It would’ve been fine if there were more than one female Lokis imo.
2022-01-30 04:10:16
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stagblack5
Fredrick Yodelster :
On top of that it took his biggest gender fluid identity story from the comics and made it a universal variant.
2022-01-30 03:19:51
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matttheboredone
Matt :
imagine a what if episode where he falls in love with 🐊 Loki
2022-01-30 03:03:39
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geekpharm
Dr. GeekPharm :
At least it wasn't Kid Loki...
2022-01-30 07:58:01
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blanktiktokuser
blanktiktokuser :
I will NEVER forgive the writers giving Loki only one female variant and making her a cis woman and all the men cis men and all of the males being
2022-01-30 03:37:16
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breakda4thwall
@breakda4thwall :
Say I always thought it was an actual love infatuation with Sylvie, I saw it as Loki finally realizing that feminism and being able to display that
2022-01-30 03:34:50
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theprofessionalnerd
TheProfessionalNerd :
It was also about the fact that she was the only Loki who got one over him - which was more the point, IMO.
2022-01-30 03:09:59
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zakkmg
Zakk MG :
to be fair, they can shape-shift, correct? we don't know how they boogy down.
2022-01-30 02:57:52
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robyneski
Robyn :
I think the Ragnarok series is a much more palatable version of the Thor/Loki story. Way better than marvel. 🤷‍♀️
2022-01-30 03:25:18
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phdinprocrastination
J :
I think it’s personally lazy to have a love story at all. I think the female presenting / gender fluid Loki was an awesome addition.
2022-02-01 22:08:11
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starry_evie
evelyn :
loki didn’t fall in love with sylvie. he fell in love with what he had the potential to be. he only thought it was love
2022-01-31 04:52:31
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msmelissxo
Melissa :
honestly before the whole romance was roped in.. I thought it was gonna be a bi man and lesbian adventure... it was not to be 🥺
2022-01-30 03:35:52
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g0lgrim
g0lgrim :
I mean.... yeah. but Mythical Loki had a relationship with "The enchentress" Angrbroda who Was female and his most well known Kids Witz her...
2022-01-31 04:35:55
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ravitheravian
raviantheravi :
bruh it even woulda low-key made sense to switch out hiddlestone for a a new presentation, budgetwise
2022-01-30 04:03:28
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rauce916
Ross Benevent :
OK but do they ever go into her ancestry at all? did she say she was adopted? could be she's from a dimension where Thor was the adopted one.
2022-01-30 22:06:43
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sendmeyourarms
sendmeyourarms :
I think the showrunner did want it to be gae but then Disney pushed back if I'm not mistaken. And that's why she's leaving
2022-01-30 03:20:21
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bklovah
BkLovah :
just to clarify, are you saying heteronormativity shouldn't be depicted on screen, cuz that's been done before? is there something bad about it?
2022-01-30 04:21:29
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anaqueer
Anastazia :
The thing that bugs me is how much press the show got because this was the show where Loki we acknowledged to be bi/pan
2022-01-30 21:08:23
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the.royale.ith
Elder Royalé Loki :
Ah yes Michael Waldron.. the reason why Multiverse of Madness makes me nervous
2022-01-30 20:05:16
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mustangvisual
Mustang 🇨🇦 :
So now all relationships needs to be anything else other than heterosexual on tv?
2022-01-30 16:56:53
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ines_coelho11
Nês💙 :
The male presenting variants were either seen as enemies or brotherly like and all of them had the same life as Loki until one specific point while
2022-01-30 06:41:08
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clevverboy
clevverboy 🇸🇪 :
100% agree. But I also think it’s a tiny bit practical. Having a sexy male Loki not be acted by Tom probably wouldn’t happen.
2022-01-30 03:00:57
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lemon_party6969
lemon_party6969 :
both of them are bisexuals
2022-01-30 15:02:04
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joeme252
Joeme :
Woulda been better if the they switched out Sylvie for Alligator Loki
2022-01-30 07:03:52
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e_rick_h
Bill :
it wouldn't make sense for it to be any other variant. Sylvie is a significant character in the comics and they needed her to be important in the show
2022-01-30 13:56:02
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simonforcer
Simon Phönix :
Do I think heteronormativity is bad? Yes. Do I think that means you can't have a hetero relationship on screen, if other possibilities are there? No.
2022-01-30 09:19:03
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pxixa_2003
Pia :
Yeah but then you could also talk about female representation. like if Sylvie was a male Loki Variant then all the kead characters are men...again.(1)
2022-01-30 15:17:28
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seamusseamus
Seamus :
instead he should of fallen in love with a loki that was also play by Tom that way it would just be ton talking to himself
2022-01-30 09:01:51
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felicia_009400
Felicia491 :
I don't like how the self love trope of this meeting urself scenario is always romantic & I wanted to see it be different this time but even then...
2022-01-30 12:22:17
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disputejax
Jax :
If Sylvie wasn’t the only one who’s female presenting that would be fine. We need more bi representation with male/female relationships imo
2022-01-30 12:49:42
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its_me_j_me
J Me 🇵🇸 :
And the fact that Sylvie is the ONLY femme Loki variant is patently absurd.
2022-01-30 07:10:15
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gen.x_jedi
Mike D Scott :
Fair point.
2022-01-30 06:56:48
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ace_of_loki
Ace of Loki :
If it showed them shapeshifting into each other, would that have made it better? Like, there is zero difference in how either one feels
2022-01-30 16:00:26
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winchester0011
DeanfoundSamsshoe :
idc what people ship because it tells me what kind of person they are but this ship should not be canon. its problematic and fluidphobic
2022-01-30 05:44:33
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aaaatsa
atsa. hehe :
I would actually hate that more I don't want the MCU's first gay relationship to literally be selfcest I just hate the whole concept so damn much
2022-01-30 17:10:09
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sevtlana.del.rey
Kate :
Honestly the Loki show is not good queer rep. Yet it got so much hype, where is the hype for phastos? Who had a husband and they kissed and have a kid
2022-01-30 17:32:45
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chrchtonphile
Iain Robertson :
Is T.H.'s Loki a narcissist? He displays genuine remorse for causing his mother's death, compassion for Sylvie, and forms sincere friendships.
2022-01-30 17:58:21
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ambivalencexi
AmbivalenceXI :
I think he couldn’t fall in love with most of the other variants because even though he is a narcissist, he deeply hates himself.
2022-01-30 18:22:18
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xxikon_leaderxx
Ikon_Leader :
That's why I feel like Disney's progressive ideas are just lip service lol
2022-01-30 18:59:34
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mrparkman1
mrparkman :
But they also made an effort to call out Loki as bisexual so ragging on them for this seems like a low blow.
2022-01-30 19:19:23
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sadlittleking
Sad King 🥥🌴 :
Id say it was the right call. If they had loki hooking up with a male loki the toxicity from the fanbase wouldve been interolerable.
2022-01-30 19:41:46
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maddieg1111
MaddieG :
they could totally have made like a self forgiveness and acceptance story instead of a romance
2022-01-30 05:31:42
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