@nate.b.jones: I wanted to give an overview of the implicit bet you’re making with a job or career in different corners of tech I don’t think this gets talked about enough but it’s possible to be really intentional about not just the company but the kind of tech scale you work at #productmanager #productmanagement #fyp #leader #tech #techtok #techtoktips #career #careeradvice #faang #jobtips #job #careertiktok #mentor #careertok #careeradviceontiktok #marketing #engineering #hiring

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90degre
90degre :
It’s what I speak about all the time when ppl speak about tech going to toilet. I’m tech in finance we are struggling to hire at any position.
2023-02-24 12:50:56
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dzman1
dzman1 :
Do people see MSFT as faang
2023-02-20 07:15:49
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wijohnst
Will_Codes_4_Food :
As a software engineer at Kroger, I feel seen. I do exciting work with really smart and dedicated people. Broad tech rules!
2023-02-20 01:27:11
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meridanbeach
Meridian Beach :
Add government and contractors, e.g. defense. Zero glamour and hype, but paychecks are astronomical at high security clearance levels and super safe
2023-02-20 02:34:14
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saintsidequest
Tax Evader :
This. I’m a SWE at a large beauty retailer. No issues, no layoffs, and the stock price up.
2023-02-20 05:00:35
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jt_sandiego
Jascha :
My dad is a PM at Home Depot and discovered the company is practically disaster proof. When catastrophic events happen people need building supplies
2023-02-20 15:48:32
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chefpatry
user5678 :
Startup to broad is SUCH a different vibe you go from doing everything 24/7 to basically taking 2 hour lunches
2023-02-20 17:59:28
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801ybsgib
smizz108 :
There’s also a whole sea of late stage startups & medium sized companies, most of which people have never even heard of. TC 280K (I’m at one of these)
2023-02-20 05:45:00
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presenteric
presenteric :
would add govtech and bigsaas/b2b in the mix but yeah basically
2023-02-20 01:34:56
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moswalt307
Mike Oswalt :
There are actually tech companies between startups and faang
2023-02-20 00:08:42
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tkw987
Erinn :
The risk profile in broad tech is much lower but so is the pay.
2023-02-20 01:58:42
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tutorhelp9393
tutorhelp9393 :
I feel like it’s somewhat disingenuous to mention the different trade offs without touching on pay differences
2023-02-21 15:11:21
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wallasbd
wallasbd :
If you’re in FinTech: good pay, low workload, corporate culture
2023-02-20 02:43:40
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joshtko
joshtko :
Uh PM at Walmart would easily be just under big tech in terms of competitiveness. More than startups.
2023-02-20 05:17:25
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ollieskitchentiktok
Ollie :
It's worth factoring career growth into the risk. 3 years in broad tech where you're not doing much can make a job loss worse than in a startup
2023-02-25 13:39:52
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zachshxjshbk
zachshxjshbk :
Working outside big tech sounds nice sometimes but it feels like the pay would be a huge decrease
2023-02-20 07:08:18
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maggi_sauce
Mmmkay :
There’s also tech consulting, which I think is between the FAANG and broad tech buckets
2023-02-20 23:43:19
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mavewrick
Srayan Guhathakurta :
An engineer in Broad tech (say a bank) is always going to be a second class citizen; bankers will be first class
2023-02-24 21:07:25
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sumguy314
RandomNPC :
Another hard truth is those big companies in your background speak to your worth. Being the top guy at some defunct startup doesn’t carry much
2023-02-20 05:00:22
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goodguygreggg
Good Guy Greg :
Startup you’re betting the founder is right *and* can operate. Don’t ignore the latter, being right about the market isn’t enough.
2023-02-20 06:20:59
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iamthewalrus23875
IAmTheWalrus23875 :
Going to startups (especially early in your career) will give you a ton of experience in broad areas.
2023-02-20 02:42:30
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masalapopstore
Deepa :
Some of the big tech is overvalued because they’re only broad tech worth but have ✨fame✨. Example: Netflix is content streaming same as espn, 🦚,amc
2023-02-20 20:08:36
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jwesbiii
Apple User337398552 :
Man I got into a telemedicine tech startup six months before the pandemic. Great company culture and right place at right time.
2023-02-21 17:49:52
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treasy521
Treasy :
There’s so many more buckets. Defense, security, finance among the ones you mentioned
2023-02-20 03:01:53
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omiespana
Omar España :
what a nice way to categorize and explain the career landscape. I'm sure that there is middle points but... still amazingly good brief
2023-02-21 22:48:21
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genericguy35
Zach Mayer :
Does Oracle count as big tech, or broad tech? It's almost purely software, but it's basically immune to market forces.
2023-02-20 15:58:48
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This guy techs
2023-02-20 20:39:18
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ihspan
ihspan :
I see a huge one missing, and that is genuine tech companies that do serious down to earth engineering but not under one of the big names.
2023-02-20 20:59:30
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emilyathena.x
emilyathena.x :
Dude a Product Manager role at Walmart is COVETED in tech. Walmart is known for amazing tech.
2023-02-20 23:51:37
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jaronfeld
Julian :
You’re missing the largest bucket by far. Medium sized tech companies. Not startup, not big, just normal sized. Like Epic.
2023-02-20 15:43:26
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eldermillenialatx
eldermillenialatx :
How to find jobs at these broad tech companies?
2023-02-20 17:24:47
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steezy2110
steezy :
Yep, I’m a SWE at a fortune 50 insurance company. Pay is nice, job is secure, I’m chillin
2023-02-20 15:13:02
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dhollingsworth1989
Douglas :
Yep. Spent my 20s in and out of startups, got lots of good projects and references and now that I'm married w/ kids Broad Tech is the sector to be in
2023-02-20 03:00:23
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histephania
Steph :
love this. so think it's worth mentioning that depending on your role, your salary can be the same regardless of which bucket you're in.
2023-02-21 11:39:02
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kindragonrc
Kindragonrc :
Broad tech has database work and full stack potitions mostly, are steady work, but don’t pay as well as the other potential
2023-02-20 03:36:26
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iamheavenandearth
I am Heaven and Earth :
It’s not FAANG anymore, it’s MANGA
2023-02-22 06:26:49
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volkriot
volkriot :
I’m pretty sure Apple, Google, Facebook and Amazon are all proven business models considering they generate billions in revenue.
2023-02-20 04:35:11
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codyvlogtv
codyvlogtv :
Depends on the industry. You are a king in big tech as a software engineer, but a pawn/seen as tech support in a non tech company.
2023-02-21 17:10:16
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trailmix___
trailmix16 :
I feel like I never see job postings for broad tech
2023-02-20 04:44:49
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michaelbilyk
Michael Bilyk :
I’m in broad tech and didn’t know it had a name. Best part is being one of the few young people. Always heads up when someone retires.
2023-02-20 07:46:20
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botanyben
Botany Ben :
do you think you're missing the military industrial-complex? Each of those has minor overlap with it, but seems like it's own entity.
2023-02-19 20:25:43
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okendoken1863
Philip Daineka :
you forgot about a very large basket of doing professional services: software development companies and agencies
2023-02-20 20:45:15
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sharcococo
Shar Coco :
I mean Walmart Labs is considered super prestigious/ high tech
2023-02-20 11:51:39
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darkmodegirlie
Natalie :
Got my tech break as SWE working on a startup team for a well known large non tech company. So far it working great and gaining a ton of experience
2023-02-20 19:42:03
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armadilloguy
user840906694047 :
In FAANG your personal success is at the team level but your pay is due to success at the company level.
2023-02-20 02:27:59
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bigcaseadilla
Casey :
Currently working a job in broad tech as lead engineer and putting all my time into the startup bucket as a founder for my AI startup
2023-02-21 19:45:34
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lexycat
LexyCat :
Devops for a consulting company, it's pretty chill
2023-02-22 01:37:56
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jackiedaytona_gobucks
Jackie_Daytona :
You left out the GOAT: Albertsons
2023-02-20 02:20:11
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sadiestlawrence
Sadie St Lawrence :
Thank you! I’ve been looking for a name for broad tech for a while, really appreciate you naming it and sharing this.
2023-03-02 05:03:29
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