@thevascularguy: Replying to @giccigen 👉@TheVascularGuy 👈Drawing from IV inherently doesnt hemolyze blood. Its the improper technique that hemolyzes blood. Heres a list of what hemolyzes blood: Too much negative pressure, high velocity trauma from hitting the bottom of vacutainer, high velocity trauma from shaking tube too hard, weak blood cells, extended exposure to air, undefilling, overfilling, sitting out too long before, incompatible temperature. #vascularaccess #phlebotomy #newgradnurse #nursingstudent

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tinobosnjak
Tino Bosnjak :
24g in the AC from now on 😎
2023-06-14 03:44:17
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___frankiemae
Frankie :
If drawing off an IV, do you do the same flush and waste with a 10cc saline syringe ?
2023-06-14 03:50:36
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prcanlilypad
Lily🪷borínquen :
But at some point, wouldn’t the smaller gauge cause hemolysis too? We have always been told 20g minimum for administering blood for that reason?
2023-06-14 04:16:54
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lashlai
lashlai :
I was always told smaller syringes cause more pressure. Never felt right to me - didn’t make sense. Thank you for validating me!
2023-06-17 14:02:36
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kristenjoleen
kristenjoleen :
Ok, so is this why a good iv may not give blood back on aspiration? Size of cath in the vessel?
2023-06-17 16:22:29
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killrmouse
killermouse :
100%. I've been trying to teach others based on what I've learned from you, it's frustrating that the more experienced are often less receptive though
2023-06-14 16:12:54
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craigccrncen
Craig Button :
Do you have articles to support that? Need to due an education plan to address that.
2023-06-14 15:58:30
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thevascularguy
TheVascularGuy :
Unfortunately OB is high risk for hemorrhagic shock. Those higher bore catheters are indicated because of the birthing process
2023-06-14 14:23:16
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waldo899
Alex Watson-Buisson :
out of curiosity, once blood from the IV is waster could you then add a leur lock blood collection. adapter and use the vacuum from the tubes?
2023-06-14 04:27:54
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user3225060906958
user3225060906958 :
Just put a tourniquet on , end of story lol
2023-06-14 03:23:45
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fruit_stripes
Nurse Stripes :
We have PIVO, love it! 🥰
2023-06-14 13:57:33
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ray106106
rayI106106i! :
Yessssss!
2023-06-17 06:06:19
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stachemadness
Collin :
But bruh, awesome tips on the different ways to get the blood back. 👏
2023-06-14 06:08:52
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hejazinator
Hejazinator :
YESSSS. Between the tourniquet and the 3mm syringe, I never had a hemolyzed sample. So useful for pts that are hard sticks but have a patent IV!!
2023-06-14 19:02:07
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brittnieagainstgravity
Brittnie :
my current ER is trying to implement this, they don't want us drawing from IV starts. it's caused such a delay in care it's crazy.
2023-06-17 21:05:50
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kellygiraldo2
Kelly Plath :
That’s why art lines are my friends 😂
2023-06-14 14:58:44
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robindixon57
Robin Dixon :
Amen
2023-06-14 04:18:20
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stachemadness
Collin :
This is difficult in the ED (depend on the pt c/c) cause ED lot of times need 20g+ for specific procedures. I dont see way around 2 sticks for the pt
2023-06-14 06:07:56
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gsanchez218
Gina :
thank you for this explanation!
2023-06-14 03:24:02
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themedgeek
TheMedGeek :
Our nurse director has done an amazing job and most VAST teams can get what they need with just a doc advocate and nurse director. Love yall! /3
2023-06-14 10:22:46
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nursemateo
Mateo :
great explanation, but I'm an ED nurse, we need larger bore for fluid resuscitation and CT exams, but 3cc is the way to go.
2023-06-14 11:14:16
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misskayleighgrace
Kayleigh :
Our policy is only the ED can draw back on a PIV. Idk why honestly but it’s unfortunate.
2023-06-14 18:48:06
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sara_r.n
Sara ☪️ :
I’m so glad you mentioned the gauge of the syringe! If it’s not a CVC then I’m using a 3ml syringe every time.
2023-06-16 18:26:43
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veg_head
Leyla :
As an ED tech putting in 18s all day, couldn’t be me Lol
2023-06-14 16:21:39
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