@love2hvac: Replying to @johnnycold Great question! we already have one that works almost identical to R22, and it's not ozone depleting and it have a very very veryoe GWP AND it's a natural refrigerant called R290! the problem is it's an A3 flammable refrigerant that scares everybody here. so we first have to move to an A2L mildly flammable refrigerant and then we might move to R290 like Europe is already doing. At AHR almost all manufactures had a monoblock R290 heat pump. A self contained package unit outside that used glycol running inside to heat and cool the house plus heat the water too! if it leaks, it all leaks outside. how long before it gets here? 🤷‍♂️ #refrigerant #r290 #r22 #r32 #a2l #hvac

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laneyrinehart8
exo168 :
propane works great for a refrigerant.
2024-03-01 09:18:06
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stickshaker73
Stickshaker :
The guys in my neighborhood just want to know which one has a better flavor and mouthfeel.
2024-03-01 13:14:26
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markseid
Markseid :
What are your thoughts on r-458a? We’ve been using it as a replacement on our 22 units and it seems decent.
2024-02-29 03:48:09
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theholyflapjack
TheHolyFlapjack :
Crazy how 22 has a lower gwp than 410 lmao
2024-03-01 02:19:16
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digger4upper
Naturally :
Global warming, or ozone depletion potential? Flammable I get…
2024-02-29 12:54:50
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southdakotapatriot
SouthDakotaPatriot :
Ammonia dude. Best refrigerant ever.
2024-03-01 03:25:40
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tgarthe
thegarthe :
Bring R 22 back
2024-03-01 16:04:53
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rasoncraft
BC :
Changing refrigerant 2025 and we are already engineering another change in 2031
2024-03-02 09:08:41
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user736337
user736337 :
WAIT! So r22 is better for the environment than 410a!?!? That's so messed up
2024-03-26 20:25:58
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okiebeeman
Okiebeeman :
What about propane? It’s a good refrigerant
2024-03-01 21:45:20
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backseateinstein
Backseat Einstein :
I grew up with propane, stove and water heaters... and no lel or co monitor 🙃. but i do recommend monitors!
2024-03-01 11:46:01
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swarm_slam_mke
SWARM_U.S. :
my local hvac said in the next 5-8years expect the next refrigerant to be butane(I belive that's what he said)
2024-02-29 23:40:58
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christianleblanc22
Z71BURB :
Couple guys in my truck pages use propane
2024-03-01 12:08:47
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tjwatts87
Tj :
717 all the way
2024-04-18 07:30:57
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joshuaprobst5
joshuaprobst :
No more copper coils no more copper if you go with ammonia
2024-03-01 19:42:15
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joshou812
Joshou812 :
As an automotive tech 1234yf is over rated af and violently expensive
2024-02-29 12:31:59
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ssmuelridgway
pipe :
knew410a was not going last long.
2024-03-01 11:46:31
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hvactechwtf
HvacTechWTF :
what about what bluon made and it wasnt a3
2024-02-29 11:05:25
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florida___man_
florida_man_ :
I don’t know why I’m here, but this entire conversation is way too smart for me
2024-02-29 22:48:53
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luc2004._
Luc :
Almost every small system in supermarkets in the Netherlands use r290 😂 just be safe and follow a 2 day cursus and you’ll be fine 👍
2024-03-21 16:30:21
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internetuserperson
internetuserperson :
We should really just use R290. Modern AC’s are pretty reliable
2024-02-29 05:44:29
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user736337
user736337 :
thanks for the explanation. sounds like r-22 is still the best option.
2024-02-29 06:14:48
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vernmcdade
D34DLUNCH :
still hv 2 tanks of r22. that and xrp make up my retirement fund.😁
2024-02-29 13:39:20
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south0fsanity
South of sanity :
They knew the GWP of 410a before they released it.
2024-02-29 04:15:55
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