@brockmcgoff: Here’s what I tried 👇🏼 ◦ Trumbull Sweatshort - oversized and very comfy ◦ Flint & Tinder 365 5” - looks good on camera but too short for comfort IMO; runs large, a 28 waist would be better for me ◦ Flint & Tinder 365 7” - better length but large in the waist (need a size 28) ◦ Proof Trail Active 7” - love the fit and feel of these; wish they had a back pocket ◦ Marine Layer Saturday Short 7” - runs very large/relaxed (too big for me) ◦ Katin Cord Local Short 6.5” - same as the Marine Layer shorts, too large all around for me ◦ Proof Rover EDC Short 7” - nice color, lots of useful pockets; I wish the leg opening was a tad narrower ◦ Wellen Performance Trunks - large on me, should have ordered XS; construction seems rock solid Thanks to my friends at @huckberry for the samples 🙏🏻