@mattstormcrow: Players will optimize their own fun away. #vtmtok #ttrpg #ttrpgtok #dmtips

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genderneutralwizard
Foolish Jade🏳️‍⚧️ :
kinda why i got bored of dnd, especially if I'm playing a character without magic, its too easy to have a "correct" action on your turn
2024-05-31 23:52:18
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xaviersfca
Xavier :
it's worth considering the alternatives. If there is no optimal choice, is it because the outcome is too random to predict or too dependent on ST whim? Those aren't fun either.
2024-06-01 00:03:49
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benjaminhord
benjaminhord :
Counterpoint: fun is subjective. If a player enjoys the process of optimization, then that is where their fun is. Part of the “fun “ of D&D is optimizing a badass fighter and then running the
2024-06-05 13:51:47
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manunmade
Man Unmade :
I have been saying basically the same thing for years
2024-05-31 21:52:23
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personatus42
Personatus :
Adolin in Shadesmar, considering weapons
2024-05-31 23:29:33
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halvictorious
HankVictor :
The optimal character build is the one that gives you the maximum number of ways to engage with the story and the other players. Solve for that number and you will be winning.
2024-06-02 14:24:09
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kirahandman
KiraHandMan :
I like playing janky builds and decks because it’s more fun that way
2024-06-08 02:13:50
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truekong
TrueKong :
If your players have optimized their characters for your game that tells me a lot more about your game then your players. They have figured you out. Switch it up
2024-06-01 13:12:54
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sa3885
PracticalAutonomy :
I optimize the fun into my character, think of the funnest character concept and then add appropriate flaws. then optimize to your hearts content.
2024-06-07 09:19:21
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omgitsmalkis
Øyvind (:( :
every mmo ever
2024-06-01 08:33:26
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nilgravity
nilgravity :
I'm making an oops all casters version of D&D and I think I will put this quote in it
2024-06-01 15:37:49
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draven_thewatcher
Draven :
agreed!!
2024-05-31 21:43:07
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beckettpseudonomys
Beckett Pseudonymus :
Hear me out, a good enough system will produce optimization paths that are interesting. Play Lancer! Its optimization paths invite people to roleplay more interesting stories too!
2024-06-01 18:30:58
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donkydouggle
donky :
that's why fail forward mechanics are important, If failure is always bad then people will optimize for success.
2024-06-06 01:31:46
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thesanguinjay
Jeremy Sark :
I've done that to myself in both tt and vgs in the past.
2024-06-15 03:59:00
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toadyarrick
Toad Yarrick :
Routine is fun tho
2024-06-04 16:43:44
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extoner2
Sean Timmons :
Facts
2024-06-10 06:04:26
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kyleschantzhilton
Loculus Games :
I always try to play deeply flawed characters.
2024-05-31 21:44:40
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