@domesticblisters: I dont know if its a lack of media literacy or if some ppl just see an opportunity for self righteousness or something but its very odd. #strugglecare #medialiteracy #storytelling #adultfiction #gameofthrones #houseofthedragon #acotar

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educataduck
Educataduck :
people dont understand the difference between liking a fictional character who is bad but well written vs a person irl who is bad
2024-06-23 17:53:31
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beccadoodletattoos
Beccadoodletattoos :
In story it’s safe to love the unlovable, it’s where we can experience danger in the safety of our imagination.
2024-06-23 23:53:12
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charliebrazen
Charlotte Jean - Author :
As someone who was reading Anne Rice FAR too early, I’ve always loved “bad” characters 🤷🏻‍♀️“They’re a MURDERER/MONSTER!” Yeah. And? 🤣
2024-06-23 17:47:27
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creativelbd
Creative LBD (Sam) 🍁🍁 :
Additionally, discussing the complexity (aka wrongs) of a beloved character shouldn’t require a caveat that this is simply literary analysis of a complex character who has good and bad aspects
2024-06-23 18:01:22
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ginad129
Gina Denny :
Bad decisions make good stories. Bad characters are a huge part of that.
2024-06-23 18:51:05
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michellebsch17
Michelle :
We seem to think our protagonists should be good people. Like flaws invalidate the character
2024-06-23 17:50:09
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horriblexdecision
horriblexdecision :
Nuance and media literacy are dead
2024-06-23 19:57:36
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gutsyhalfling
mel :
The general public did not enjoy or try to understand their Literature classes. This is the result.
2024-06-23 18:09:36
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nickiruinedmylife
Nickiiii :
Saw someone on TT say “that’s what English class was for but you didn’t wanna pay attention”
2024-06-23 17:48:02
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diemadaboutit
DieMadAboutIt :
This is the direct outcome of teaching for test scores and compliance imo
2024-06-23 19:54:11
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mle1207
mle1207 🆘️🇺🇸 :
I grew up xian and it was so ingrained in us that even thinking about evil was wrong. I couldn't possibly even like a character that was deemed evil or wrong. My son had me questioning this as he...
2024-06-23 19:40:35
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__0pale__
__0pale__ :
i think does fall under the rise of puritanism we somehow see growing in the youger generation now
2024-06-23 18:08:23
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poodletoesrn
PoodleToesRN 🆘🇺🇸 :
Also, other worlds and cultures within fiction have different values and norms. Westeros isn’t the US.
2024-06-23 18:29:09
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christina.is.chaos
Christina.is.chaos :
It’s a little scary as a comment on black and white thinking…and in the realm of fiction, it’s puritanical.
2024-06-23 21:28:50
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pluckyshroom
pluckyshroom :
This has been happening in fan spaces for a LONG time, and it feels like it just gets worse every year
2024-06-23 20:04:00
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holly_godarkly
holly_godarkly :
I think it's also the inability to reserve judgement of a characters actions long enough to ask "why", or to consider all that came before.
2024-06-23 18:19:51
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tlsher20
Tory :
This! I also think that some of this is a little anti-intellectualism leaking into the broader culture from Christian fundamentalism.
2024-06-23 17:56:21
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laurenisdoinggreat
laurenisdoinggreat :
It’s telling that my 9th grade AP reading was great expectations and ten years ago it was the hunger games.
2024-06-23 17:53:23
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kakesandtea
aspiring hag :
I have to constantly remind myself that most people have an alarmingly low level of literacy at all
2024-06-23 17:46:27
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nokie_star
Rachel :
Jamie Lannister. Book version, especially.
2024-06-23 21:59:34
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gwengavinbooks
Gwen Gavin 📚✍🏼 :
I really hate the new phenomenon that art and our enjoyment of it must be a reflection of our own morality.
2024-06-23 17:53:43
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legallythrifty
LegallyThrifty :
Even the teens get this 😭 look at snow the latest hunger games book. His complexity and internal moral battle is what makes him interesting.
2024-06-24 13:55:22
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coffee_fruit
Coffee :
Regina and Rumpelstiltskin on Once Upon a Time.
2024-06-23 19:44:43
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lindseyintoronto
Lindz :
It’s like this with everything. “They’re problematic!” Yes, they’re the villain it’s literally the point, it’s meant to be a problem.
2024-06-23 17:56:26
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adventureswithbirdie
adventureswithbirdie :
They’re not real people…it’s not like we’re all out here rooting for actual bad humans 😂
2024-06-23 17:54:01
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melissareadsalot
📚melissareadsalot📚 :
This was exactly why I liked Nesta from book 1. Feyre took a predictable hero’s journey, Nesta was an unknown that I was desperate to know what made her tick and why she acted the way she did.
2024-06-23 19:26:41
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bailey_rose3930
bailey_rose3930🇺🇦🇵🇸 :
I just get so confused because why would I want to read a book where everything is good and there is no problem or angst or plot? Humans are complex so characters need to be
2024-06-23 18:09:29
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wildlensbypixie
wildlensbypixie :
Also, do some people not know what an Unreliable Narrator is??
2024-06-24 20:21:57
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ollierose_
Ollie Rose 🍉 :
It’s to the point where I just don’t talk about shows or books or movies that I like because I can’t be bothered to interact with these people.
2024-06-23 21:36:33
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mama.llama30
mama.llama30 :
I'm reading throne of glass and I love that none of the characters are perfect.
2024-06-23 18:43:47
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doingthingsbookishly
DoingThingsBookishly :
I was just talking to my husband about this this morning. We were talking about people who rage about how horrible of a person Scott Pilgrim is.
2024-06-23 17:52:47
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ayayleesha
Alysia | ER RN | Book lover :
Likewise, I’ve been in fandom 20+ years and it’s shocking to me the turn it has taken - the whole pro/antiship thing where antis assume liking a ship is a sign of your moral character.
2024-06-23 17:50:53
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millennialtrashpanda
MillennialTrashPanda :
Just because I appreciate a character doesn’t mean I respect or admire them.
2024-06-23 17:48:39
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hippigirl88
hippigirl88 :
Some ppl definitely didn’t pay attention in eng 101 when they read Frankenstein and it shows 😂😂😂
2024-06-23 23:27:40
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clerkzuzu
ClerkZuzu :
It I the same with a lot of week-writren romance novels. I often tell people "Because I know the difference between reality and fiction."
2024-06-23 21:23:06
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texanmomlife
texanmom :
There is such a decline in imaginative thinking, media literacy, and participation in… thought?
2024-06-23 21:14:47
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_annabeth53_
Anna Beth :
A lot of people lack the will or ability to hold nuance, complexity, and ambivalence. In HS I noticed many of my classmates read for face value and weren't interested in symbolism or character growth.
2024-06-23 21:01:21
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jodinnii
Jodinni :
almost all my favorite characters are "bad" characters lol
2024-06-23 19:04:32
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ara.sea
Ara :
🫠 folks insist on these online performances of “morality” like… reading [“bad” subject/character] isn’t 1:1 with a reader’s/real person’s morals/beliefs. Policing thought “crimes” is 😵‍💫
2024-06-23 18:59:34
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mablesx
Mable :
Also like...yeah. They're bad. AND I LOVE THEM!
2024-06-23 17:46:32
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helinahandbasketirl
HelinaHandbasket :
Characters with no flaws are soooo gd boring.
2024-06-23 17:46:04
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lavender0lady
Dodi :
I think a lot of this comes from teen/YA fandom culture-where you DO see a lot of young people ‘defending’ the morality of ‘bad’ characters (Draco Malfoy is a classic example). Because if (cont)
2024-06-26 19:07:17
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mrsdrvphd
Adhd.mom.bakes&stuff :
Also ask who ever is yelling if they read Twilight no matter what team they were on both guys were awful to her but no one ever seems to notice
2024-06-26 11:15:25
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moonindetriment
moon in detriment :
This is why I loved Breaking Bad. Walter is one of THE most interesting, dynamic characters. His spiral into moral corruption is incredible to watch. Love the character, but he’s def not “good” lol
2024-06-24 16:54:16
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xfiendfyre
Farrah :
My favorite characters are almost always people that I would hate if I met them in real-life.
2024-06-24 06:12:16
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marvmas
Rainbow Chard’onnay Delight :
I had someone come at me for Severus Snape being my favorite. He’s SO. INTERESTING.
2024-06-24 03:50:48
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nsbridgmon
Nat :
Many people don’t get adequate reading comp education (why are we reading these old offensive books???) and that pairs real goofily with Purity Culture.
2024-06-24 00:56:44
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pks_tiktok99
Snarky Grumkin :
it's FICTION 🙄
2024-06-24 00:14:55
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kevingradymusic
Kevin Grady :
THANK YOU!! Art is not the Bible!!! Complex characters do not need to be your moral compass!!
2024-06-23 23:03:39
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