@philosophyminis: In 1974, Thomas #Nagel gave us one of the most bizarre but philosophically exciting questions of all time: ‘What does it feel like to be a bat?’ This doesn’t mean imagining yourself upside down and trying to catch insects in your mouth, because that’s not what it feels like to be a bat. That’s a human behaving rather oddly. You see, we know a lot about bats. We know that they use echolocation to navigate their environment, and this means using high-frequency shrieks to reflect on objects and to then ‘correlate outgoing impulses with the subsequent echoes.’ From this, a #bat will develop a picture of the external world. Or so we suppose. Because while we know everything we can about a bat’s brain and we can pretend this is ‘comparable to vision,’ we can never truly know what it’s like to perceive the world with bouncing sound waves. For Nagel, this shows how ‘completely unequipped’ we are to understand the inner #subjective experience of a bat, or an alien, or a dog, or each other. Our inner life is completely inaccessible to everybody else. But this doesn’t mean that we cannot imagine or try to empathize with other people. It just means that the success or failure of that depends on how similar you are to that person. Or, in other words, everything that we imagine is coloured by what we, ourselves, know. #philosophy #epistemology #mind #empathy
Jonny Thomson
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Thursday 25 July 2024 19:37:27 GMT
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Thunder & Mudcat :
1. I think, with this kind of thinking, we risk confusing the tree for the forest. We don’t need to “visualize” echolocation, rather simply to understand that we are guided by our instincts and innate
2024-07-26 18:30:31
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BigTonyI :
I really love these short videos. Thank you so much for doing them!
2024-07-25 19:47:47
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George :
I think the quote " we see things not as they are, but as we are " is along those lines.
2024-07-25 20:04:00
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romafone :
Some blind humans use echolocation to navigate. In blind sports with a ball they put a bell inside the ball. I don’t think it’s outside our ability to imagine, it outside our motivation to become.
2024-07-30 18:15:39
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Steve :
never say never, as a start we could see if it is directly linked to their visual cortex the same as their eyes. or if other areas of the brain are involved. given its sound, is it precise hearing?
2024-08-19 11:17:14
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trma57 :
You’re simplily the best🥰
2024-07-25 21:38:55
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Papz 13 :
Thanks so much for your videos and explanations
2024-07-25 21:59:21
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SRIV THEFOUR :
Imagination depends on the observer, and thus "it" also depends on if other forces are producing the world-view for the observer, but without observer, the view itself has no meaning -...
2024-07-26 00:26:11
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i Referenced this in my philosophy podcast for my capstone😇 Awesome
2024-08-24 23:41:08
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Paul Sundt :
I've had the same thought about a cat. It's profound because all beings are occupied with their own existence,
2024-07-26 07:56:56
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vicvill :
Sam Harris did talk about that perspective . thank you for sharing the sources.
2024-08-09 14:08:23
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Κωνσταντινος Βασιλ17 :
telepathy is between human and any other being..
2024-07-26 14:41:22
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Josephine Kriese :
keep doing there,I really love them.🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰stimulates my 82 yr. old brain.🥰
2024-07-26 19:52:11
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? :
It baffles me that these are famous philosophers when every single person thought about
2024-07-26 10:29:37
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davebakedpotato :
I'm sure this was discussed earlier than that - what is it like to be a tiger etc.
Kafka's Metamorphasis is in a similar vein, written in 1915.
2024-07-26 06:45:19
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Leitmo :
In fact I don’t even know if my experience of consciousness is the same as yours 👀
2024-07-28 09:55:31
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Jack.Hammer :
Some blind people can navigate using clicks to build up a picture of their surroundings.
2024-07-26 07:21:17
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foxy0392 :
These are such great videos. Can I ask what you use to record your video and sound?
2024-07-26 09:40:09
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tomas_vilhelm :
this question was only asked publicly in 1974? I feel like ive been wondering about this since I was about 6. Somone must have published this before?
2024-09-12 04:09:17
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Dominik Suess :
this has nothing to with Nagel's paper, which is about physicalism and nothing else
2024-08-20 18:19:08
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Muhammed Tahreem Ala :
"imagination is colored by what we ourselves know"
awespiring wisdom quotes.
2024-08-15 11:01:47
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Noor Ali Khan :
This often happens to me when i see animals or infants .
i often imagine what they would feel or think about sorrounding.
this becomes little easy for adult humans to imagine.
2024-08-12 18:31:24
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Jeff :
As an autistic person, and a fan of Nagel, this has particular relevance for myself and the students I’ve taught as a special education teacher working w/ autistic students.
2024-07-27 22:17:42
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