a big part of it is also CONSENT. if the person consents to an abortion, they are removing an invading body from themself. if they're killed, there is obviously no consent to that.
2024-08-15 01:24:12
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NarutoXSasuke fan :
men really don't understand the concept of consent, do they. Killing a wanted child and their mother is not the same as terminating an unwanted pregnancy, what's not to understand.
2024-08-15 18:22:07
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Lev :
This is a principle in law that's existed since the Roman Empire, which aims to protect the best interests of a potential person from conception. It does not however mean to define personhood
2024-08-16 05:44:50
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H&L :
Also the same way cutting off someone’s leg is mutilation and a doctor cutting off someone’s leg is a procedure. It’s about consent.
2024-08-15 03:14:07
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Adamation :
Facts🙌🏻
2024-08-15 02:00:42
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Uncgwhoviangirl :
Even if a fetus did have personhood, a person cannot use another person’s body to sustain their own life without that person’s consent. Period.
2024-08-15 12:47:37
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Rylee♡🏳️⚧️🇵🇸 :
also ur not allowed to go into the hospital and pull the plug on a random person. you have to have POA or be next of kin to have that power
2024-08-15 00:40:08
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santa Solina :
Thank you I was wondering
2024-08-16 08:54:00
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Ivy Epsilon :
if you read the "Interested Persons Memo on Attempts to Create Fetal Rights: The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2003" by the ACLU, that law was the long game to ban abortion.
2024-08-15 07:36:20
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Aija McDonald :
SAY IT LOUDER
2024-08-18 21:07:22
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DisgruntledPelican :
Exactly. Leave it to the religious right to try and wield a law meant to protect abuse victims against them.
2024-08-15 20:21:49
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baddieavery :
Pregnancy itself is violence and abuse so “violence/abuse against women” is reductive af
2024-08-15 19:48:41
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Fungi :
This.
2024-08-15 09:19:11
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Dev :
Consent and intent, idk why people don’t understand this
2024-08-15 10:06:43
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R Lee :
Wait till they see what the Bible says about the punishment for causing a woman to miscarry. Literally just had to pay some money to the husband.
2024-08-15 00:10:06
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agz3a2 :
ask her when I can claim the fetus on my taxes or when I can take a life insurance policy out on the fetus
2024-08-15 00:57:36
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Curley :
👏🏽
2024-08-14 22:52:35
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Galaxlee :
Without the pregnant person around to say otherwise, they have to assume the fetus is wanted.
2024-08-15 12:37:05
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Alyssa Vlo 🍉 :
if I can legally get my arm amputated why is it illegal if someone cuts it off???
2024-08-15 06:55:15
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jp :
does this law deter DV or even murder bc your prob gonna get life or the chair for just killing your wife
2024-08-15 00:07:46
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witchnails4sale :
It's NOT a "morality" issue of the law, it's a protection issue.Men are violent and attack the most vulnerable, that includes pregnant women that cannot fight back due to fear of damage to fetus.
2024-08-20 06:08:35
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ambericano☕🌿 :
Also I think feticide is a crime if a woman is assaulted and it results in the death of her unborn. Taking away that woman's choice to cherish her baby is a crime but is often not upheld unfortunately
2024-08-15 17:46:54
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dream soda :
murdering a pregnant person is the most obvious violation of consent where as a pregnant person aborting an unwanted/nonviable fetus is exclusively a consent based choice
2024-08-15 18:11:51
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PatrickJ :
😂😂 that was a huge dodge
2024-09-05 14:06:29
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rosetinted :
And the reason is bc the abusive men are JEALOUS. Of their own baby. 🙄 Abusers are honestly the most idiotic people on the planet, it’s pathetic
2024-08-27 16:10:31
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photoshop is for plebs :
Yep it’s just a stupid gotcha they use. There’s a couple other laws that do things like this where they don’t say what they actually mean
2024-08-26 22:44:24
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luck :
also...it simply does not matter if they view a fetus as a person, if I stab someone and ruin their kidney the gov cannot force me to give them mine, meaning I'm owed the right to withhold use of my
2024-08-25 13:45:24
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altheofbtlwoghwbako :
@Bop boop here’s an explanation!
2024-08-25 02:06:35
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Olivia :
And in my state at least it’s not even considered a double homicide. Just goes from murder to aggravated murder
2024-08-23 16:33:40
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🌼Pip🌼 :
love them both, protect them both 💛
2024-08-23 07:11:37
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abbie :
@Laikan Vass pls educate yourself before embarrassing yourself on the internet
2024-08-21 16:31:14
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kai young :
That statistic is sickening 😡
2024-08-21 15:30:30
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in cognito :
i agree, but rather than double homicide, perhaps the charge could be clarified to just be murder of a pregnant woman, so it doesn't carry the same implication
2024-08-20 23:14:29
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𝖋𝖊𝖑𝖎𝖈𝖎𝖙𝖞 𝖌𝖗𝖆𝖈𝖊 :
Bc the males that do this also do in fact want to cause harm to the baby and do harm to mom BY causing stress to baby. There is also an intent for baby, born or not fetus or not
2024-08-20 16:19:36
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mueranduh :
No baby is better off dead.
2024-08-19 05:46:26
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💮✨altFTraci✨💮 :
thank you!!!!💯💯💯💯💯
2024-08-19 03:36:24
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Faith :
The law could simply reflect that abuse of pregnant women is extra bad. The same way it reflects abuse of minors is extra bad. No need to randomly imply the fetus is a person. Dumbest argument lol
2024-08-19 02:22:41
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jason/cían @kiddbf he/sé 🇮🇪 :
imo pregnancy is a temporary disability to me and a lot (SOME) of the 4buse that pregnant women face is also ableism cuz (SOME) of it stems from them not being able to do everything they could before
2024-08-15 14:52:45
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Dr.Zaw :
👏👏👏
2024-08-18 14:32:44
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VDogg609 :
Also, the law is not a moral code lmfao
2024-08-18 05:30:39
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Mama Kuja :
EVERYONE I THE COMMENTS ARE HUMAN BEINGS!!!!! NOT HUMAN BECOMINGINGS!! #choice
2024-08-17 06:32:03
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🍒 :
& it's not another person's decision if that fetus is brought to term or not. it's ONLY the women who's body it is who gets to make that choice.& if she was *planning to give birth*, that matters too!
2024-08-17 03:22:42
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user17219332040 :
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2024-08-16 17:09:53
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Garichigô :
but in some countries it isn't considered double homicide
2024-08-16 07:33:59
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maizin <3 :
also, it's the same as deeming suicide a crime. it's so that police can (if they do their job and don't kill innocent ppl) save someone attempting suicide without needing permission or a warrant
2024-08-16 06:32:24
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Lu Castro 🏴 :
tbh I also always assume that the law just assumes that the pregnancy was wanted bc the mother can't state other wise?
2024-08-16 05:49:10
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SluggishHedgemom :
Same reason fines double in a construction zone. To get ppl to STOP IT. 😫
2024-08-15 15:45:39
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La Chula :
I was wondering why it's not just classified as "murder" when a woman gets an abortion now. like. yall was screaming from the rafters. Just to not use your own logic.
2024-08-16 02:01:33
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Olive 🫒 :
Small correction - it was the leading cause of death in pregnant women for many years but other factors have pushed it to 2nd or 3rd in recent years. Still INSANE, esp bc it’s usually their partner
2024-08-15 15:57:50
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