@siegemental: Fying the AT-AT walker dropships under Echo Base’s umbrella-shaped energy shield makes perfect sense and is no way a plot contrivance #starwars #warhammer40k #Halo #scifi #ww2 #starshiptroopers #militaryhistory
Ground invasions can be about protecting or seizing assets
2024-08-21 13:15:35
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Mickey :
Dune fixed that
2024-08-26 23:15:53
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Motherfucker :
You also gotta consider the goals, in Dune they cant just bomb the planet because it has resources they require.
2024-08-21 13:38:22
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SamSantala :
In the Halo lore the Covenant often did this, just glassed the entire planet from orbit and while humans could hold their own on the ground, they just couldn't win in space, thus almost losing the war
2024-08-21 15:43:25
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Slip :
look at Iraq and Afghanistan. those wars were lost and the US had Superior air power
2024-08-21 12:18:16
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cartoocho :
this guy spent a whole minute asking the same question
2024-08-21 16:33:05
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Chinese lobster fisherman :
40k books do a good job at this. There’s usually something valuable they’re fighting over something valuable they can’t destroy, or they want to reclaim lost worlds without completely ruining them
2024-08-21 17:17:48
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cr.gonperz :
Do you know all tomorrows? Mars and Earth just decided to do kind of a Planetary war of atrittion with drones for decades
2024-09-30 03:32:54
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abayomip6 :
Also if you have tech for interstellar ships the people on the planet have tech to shoot down interstellar ships in orbit.
2024-08-21 13:19:38
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Lord Sauron Eugene :
Better to just hold orbit and starve them out
2024-08-21 22:02:08
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RandomSkill :
Because most planetary defense are better than a ship. Bigger gun, bigger shield, and a lot of manufacture capability. You will run out of ship before all those defense are down without land invasion.
2024-08-21 13:39:04
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WPchicken :
The Empire in Star Wars had the Death Star. It doesn’t change the fact that nearly all conflicts are about control of people and/or resources. Destroying everything prevents that.
2024-08-21 17:09:09
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smmmmmmmmmmms :
in most scifi setting ground combat still would be realistic because:
A what if there is enemy factory, lab, mine, capitol etc that you want to capture and not destroy
2024-08-21 12:55:06
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Maltese Milk :
It’s also important to understand that as the attacker you wouldn’t want to absolutely decimate the planet because then you lost the thing your fighting for
2024-08-21 17:21:15
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Timo :
and afterwards what are you gonna do with a destroyed planet ?
2024-08-21 12:27:19
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Kizishikuru :
Not even for anything more than keeping the thing your attacking in one piece for future use or to retrieve something that literally requires means that only troops on the ground can do, like the only
2024-08-31 16:50:10
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Elliott :
Sci-fi writers try to make spaceships act as ships more than what they are, very big slow targets. Then to get past that they give them shields. Then make surface defenses useless.
2024-08-21 14:38:22
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RJAK :
The covenant in Halo do just glass planets from orbit, usually the only time they go planet side is to look for forerunner artifacts and to hunt human
2024-08-21 16:01:09
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Niklas :
Well, assuming that getting heavy things into orbit is expensive, and the invention of energybased weapons, then a planets defence will likely be hundreds of times stronger than a fleets offensive PW.
2024-08-22 06:26:35
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Leander Lopez :
It's because bombing from so far away doesn't have the precision to decrease their fighting capabilities significantly. You need to control ground so that the enemy loses the ability to resist.
2024-08-21 20:22:04
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andlius :
scifi now has to contend with the reality that we can just use cheap tiny super fast drones to do things infantry can do but faster and more swarm-ier.
2024-08-22 15:15:58
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Arkatoshi :
I German we say „the last 100 meters belong to the army“ because you need ground forces to occupy land. That’s why ground combat exists. Plus you would want to gain the infrastructure and population
2024-08-22 15:03:30
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jhawkin7 :
I mean unless u just want leave everything a smoldering crater I'm gonna assume you want something out of this place. materials, loot etc. You need ground troops to acquire any of that and any force
2024-08-22 05:06:32
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AsheAsheBaby :
In Halo, the Covenant only went to ground when the objective needed it. Either to take down generators that powered the orbital MAC stations around Reach/Earth, or to secure Forerunner artifacts that
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