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Have you heard the drama about Jane Seymour’s family?! When Jane was at court there were rumours swirling about a potential scandal within her family, with the tale being that her father, Sir John Seymour, had stolen his son Edward’s wife, Catherine. Edward Seymour had married Catherine Filliol in around 1519 and Catherine soon gave birth to two sons, the first named John, and the second named Edward.  By 1528 however, the marriage had broken down beyond repair. Something major had clearly happened, because it was also around this time that Catherine’s father disinherited her - he wrote Catherine, Edward, and his grandchildren John and Edward, out of his will. Although Catherine’s father stated that she was to receive a small pension of 40 pounds, this was to be on the condition that she would live virtuously in a convent. Edward was not to receive any of this money, and it was stipulated that the money was to be passed into Catherine’s own hands. Catherine did indeed spend the rest of her life shut up in a nunnery, dying some years later in around 1535.  So what happened?! Historian Elizabeth Norton states that ‘it is almost certain that this would have been due to some indiscretion on Catherine’s part’’ and rumour at the time did indeed suggest that there had been some infidelity.  An old story recounts the revelation that Edward apparently had regarding Catherine. Chronicler Peter Heylyn records that whilst Edward was serving in France, he  “did acquaint himself with a learned man supposed to have great skill in magick; of whom he obtained by great rewards and importunities, and let him see, by the help of some magical perspective, in what estate all his relations stood at home. In which impertinent curiosity he was so far satisfied as to behold a gentleman of his acquaintance in a more familiar posture with his wife than was agreeable to the honour of either party. To which diabolical illusion, he is said to have given so much credit that he did not only estrange himself from her society at his coming home but furnished his next wife with an opportunity for pressing him to the disinheritance of his former children.’ Edward was away frequently during the 1520s, and Catherine stayed alone with his parents at Wolf Hall. It has indeed been suggested that Sir John Seymour was this gentleman of Edward’s acquaintance, though this is far from proven. It seems that Sir John did father an illegitimate son before his marriage, however this isn’t too wild in the context of the time.  Whatever the case, records from parliament do suggest that Edward did believe in the unfaithfulness of Catherine, as he specifically applied for and received a grant ensuring that his estate would be inherited by the children from his second marriage to Anne Stanhope.  Edward was never prepared to acknowledge the sons of Catherine as his true heirs, and he in fact doesn’t acknowledge the boy John at all, with Edward Jnr still being effectively abandoned.  Though Edward did send Catherine away to a nunnery, he never went so far as to try to end their marriage formally. He basically waited for her to die before remarrying Anne Stanhope. Interestingly, there is a suggestion that this episode may account in some way for the lack of marriage proposals that Jane received whilst at court, with families being wary of associating themselves with the scandalous Seymours #historytok #LearnOnTikTok #historytiktok #womenshistory #tudortiktok #tudortok #janeseymour
Have you heard the drama about Jane Seymour’s family?! When Jane was at court there were rumours swirling about a potential scandal within her family, with the tale being that her father, Sir John Seymour, had stolen his son Edward’s wife, Catherine. Edward Seymour had married Catherine Filliol in around 1519 and Catherine soon gave birth to two sons, the first named John, and the second named Edward. By 1528 however, the marriage had broken down beyond repair. Something major had clearly happened, because it was also around this time that Catherine’s father disinherited her - he wrote Catherine, Edward, and his grandchildren John and Edward, out of his will. Although Catherine’s father stated that she was to receive a small pension of 40 pounds, this was to be on the condition that she would live virtuously in a convent. Edward was not to receive any of this money, and it was stipulated that the money was to be passed into Catherine’s own hands. Catherine did indeed spend the rest of her life shut up in a nunnery, dying some years later in around 1535. So what happened?! Historian Elizabeth Norton states that ‘it is almost certain that this would have been due to some indiscretion on Catherine’s part’’ and rumour at the time did indeed suggest that there had been some infidelity. An old story recounts the revelation that Edward apparently had regarding Catherine. Chronicler Peter Heylyn records that whilst Edward was serving in France, he “did acquaint himself with a learned man supposed to have great skill in magick; of whom he obtained by great rewards and importunities, and let him see, by the help of some magical perspective, in what estate all his relations stood at home. In which impertinent curiosity he was so far satisfied as to behold a gentleman of his acquaintance in a more familiar posture with his wife than was agreeable to the honour of either party. To which diabolical illusion, he is said to have given so much credit that he did not only estrange himself from her society at his coming home but furnished his next wife with an opportunity for pressing him to the disinheritance of his former children.’ Edward was away frequently during the 1520s, and Catherine stayed alone with his parents at Wolf Hall. It has indeed been suggested that Sir John Seymour was this gentleman of Edward’s acquaintance, though this is far from proven. It seems that Sir John did father an illegitimate son before his marriage, however this isn’t too wild in the context of the time. Whatever the case, records from parliament do suggest that Edward did believe in the unfaithfulness of Catherine, as he specifically applied for and received a grant ensuring that his estate would be inherited by the children from his second marriage to Anne Stanhope. Edward was never prepared to acknowledge the sons of Catherine as his true heirs, and he in fact doesn’t acknowledge the boy John at all, with Edward Jnr still being effectively abandoned. Though Edward did send Catherine away to a nunnery, he never went so far as to try to end their marriage formally. He basically waited for her to die before remarrying Anne Stanhope. Interestingly, there is a suggestion that this episode may account in some way for the lack of marriage proposals that Jane received whilst at court, with families being wary of associating themselves with the scandalous Seymours #historytok #LearnOnTikTok #historytiktok #womenshistory #tudortiktok #tudortok #janeseymour

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