@syntheticzero: #korea #japan #relationships #foreigners #nunchi #空気を読む

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bigbootyjoodee
정지민 :
Im Korean American and I struggle with nunchi 😭 I’m just used to having things explicitly explained to me and it took me a long time to understand what people were saying wo saying it
2024-10-07 03:08:08
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nozakuboy
foxsocks :
very interesting! could you possibly give examples of the details that would go unspoken in Japanese or Korean and what you have to spell out for others?
2024-10-07 00:40:52
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avtvmnsvnshine
Autumn Sunshine :
Is this why anime has so many scenes of characters talking to themselves to figure out what another character is thinking? Especially w a time-slowed zoom of the other character from the narrators POV
2024-10-07 04:48:02
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khadijahchi
khadijah :
Linguists call this high context language vs low context language. On the other side of spectrum German is very low context. Everything is explicitly stated matter of factly
2024-10-07 00:58:04
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sajking7
Saj King :
It’s so interesting that you mention feeling more relaxed in Japan/Korea as I’ve used that exact same word to describe the inverse - I’m from the Southern US which has a lot more unspoken rules/communication and it always caused me a lot of stress because I was never good at it. Now that I live in NYC I feel so much more relaxed knowing that if I do something to upset someone, they’ll tell me! I guess different communication styles just work better for different people.
2024-10-07 05:31:50
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champthony
champthony :
so…autism? cause that’s just my regular life lol
2024-10-07 10:43:08
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beautyjoy98
Ellen Joy :
growing up in a very abusive household I developed this skill well so well that people think I'm a mind ready I'm not. I just read energy & make good guesses that are correct because if I didn't
2024-10-07 08:02:01
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gcats6
user4824964094943 :
This is very informative but living like this 24/7 feels like it would be so stifling and surveillance-like
2024-10-07 05:46:55
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aangl3r
Justin Mark Chastain :
can you discuss some examples? I hear about this concept but I don't understand how it's possible to leave out important information in conversation and expect to be understood.
2024-10-07 08:40:31
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sephorajoonie
Sasha :
Curious, what’s the experience like for Japanese and Korean autistics? When culturally they’re expected to devote a portion of energy to reading the room but an autistic brain can’t always do that naturally or intuitively. What’s their experience like?
2024-10-07 16:53:08
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yenhyun_
Yennnn :
In America it’s a red flag if you don’t say exactly what you want and “nobody can read minds”. Growing up in SEA country I expected other people to “read between the lines”, now i know it’s a 1/2
2024-10-07 03:07:36
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g0thic_semblance
zevranswife :
i noticed once that in some low comtext cultures, if you need to get past someone while sitting at a window seat you have to say "may i get past you?" whereas +
2024-10-09 14:58:23
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kat_cuttin_up
Kat_cuttin_up :
Im American and my husband is from a high context culture. It’s so hard, I need him to directly communicate and he is always reading into everything
2024-10-07 03:51:12
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jennhew
jennhew :
I do this. We call it hypervigilance, & it’s usually a result of childhood trauma. I think it’s such a valuable skill, though, & I’ve been trying to figure out how to teach my kids without the trauma
2024-10-07 15:03:23
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infinitetypes
InfiniteTypes :
Southerners have this a bit. It’s a matter of it not being polite to put people in a position to ever say no. So instead of asking for water they might say “Oh I’m a bit thirsty!” So you’d offer.
2024-10-07 02:52:12
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hatakerachel
Rachel Hatake 🫧 :
Yes, this was an issue my husband and I had in the beginning. We would joke that I had a relaxed way of thinking, while he always reading between the lines 24/7.
2024-10-06 21:42:20
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issanaggi
isanaggi :
kuuki wo yomeru is basically strong interpretive labor and, because there is a high context, low 'communication' barrier there is difficulty
2024-10-07 04:05:05
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ethan_conlee
Ethan Conlee :
Im an American and struggling to understand the benefit of high context. Whats the harm in explaining vs the obvious downside of potential misunderstanding by not communicating ?
2024-10-08 07:21:42
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unitedstatesoflove
The Love Parade :
I clearly remember the silent treatment and withholding all affection until I figured out what the problem was, divorce is rolling along nicely though
2024-10-07 04:57:24
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therealblaziken
Blaziken :
i’m american & my husband is filipino. he is always trying to “read between the lines,” and i’m autistic so i am a very direct communicator. let’s just the say the first year of marriage was tough. 💀
2024-10-07 10:58:55
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s.odd.y
soddy :
Do people get upset if you failed to read the kuuki / nunchi because it’s almost an expectation?
2024-10-09 01:50:44
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ckwik240
CKwik240 :
I'm Korean and my biggest struggles with my mom is getting relevant details from her. Some things are now common sense then others, but where there is ambiguity, getting her to specify can be
2024-10-07 22:43:49
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floooooooopy
Florencia :
I think it comes down to individualist vs collectivistic societies. I find that as a Latina I am always reading the room as well… for example growing up my friends and I were never grounded or
2024-10-08 18:46:56
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carliefornyaart
Carliefornya :
So are you supposed to ask questions to fill in the gaps, or just assume you know what the other person wants, and then do it? This was very interesting to hear!
2024-10-07 02:24:34
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wiggleys
jana bo nana :
Is this a man/woman thing, because I felt very frustrated for the first 15 years of my marriage before I realized I had to literally spell things out for my husband. He was not good at picking up cues
2024-10-07 16:22:03
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