@misteramazingofficial: Notes: [1] Hobbes doesn't have a "universal" moral order beyond the state. Each state itself defines a moral universe for its people. The necessity of submission remains. [2] These are generalizations of highly differentiated philosophers. My characterization of what "makes" them punk is hyperbolic and is not intended as serious description, except within the logic of the image. [3] Alternative characterizations are possible!! If you have some, please comment them below :) #philosophy #society #analysis #culture