personally i love Hold Them Down and Odysseus because Ody doesn't even give the suitors an INCH. no charade, no false competition. he sees a threat to the people he loves and he ACTS.
2024-12-30 18:12:52
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Mythical :
Hold them down is a beautifully written villain song. Kingdoms for centuries in stories have had this arc in it because it’s happened in history. Also Penelope tricked those guys for 20 years. 1
2024-12-30 16:03:13
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[GENDER REDACTED] :
Jorge knows! He's mentioned it before that he changed some things so that he could tell the story in a way that made sense. Like the Winions existing, and I believe he mentioned that Odysseus is never
2024-12-30 12:07:11
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Luna Umber :
I think finding “hold them down” to be the offensive to the source material is WILD. Like of all the things that did not happen, 600 Strike diverges the most from the source material. The only thing I hated about The Ithaca Saga was how little time we spent there considering it’s like 45% of the Odyssey. Like,,,,,,, bffr
2024-12-30 14:51:24
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Kess Callaghan :
It establishes a reason for Odysseus and Telemachus to murder 100 people and purge them from the castle. You know, the plot
2024-12-30 15:16:21
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Mila 🍉📚 :
no one who is a classicist would say "Greek mythology major". they would say they're in classics/classical studies. sincerely, an ACTUAL classical studies major
2024-12-31 18:44:27
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Space :
also if anything, 1: the song and plot are to show real monsters. All the other villains had at least a shred of sympathy (even Calypso, who Jorge left up to interpretation) the suitors aren't
2024-12-30 16:02:29
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leafbaby77 :
People getting so upset over this song seem to forget the suitors didn’t even get a chance to ATTEMPT. They were just being way too loud with their evil plans 😭
2024-12-30 15:22:46
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Ace detective :
I told someone they were gonna be pretty mad when they compared the grotgers Grimm stories to Disney and they said it's not the same because brothers Grimm aren't as old
2024-12-30 11:16:52
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Carmen :
Jorge literally made a video explaining how he's using creative freedoms and that no one should use his music for educational purposes
2024-12-30 16:42:50
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Ruki :
The era of media where the antagonist must always be saved or deserve sympathy really ruined storytelling. Not every antagonist deserves it, and it boils down to motivation//
2024-12-30 18:06:11
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GeaMythology|Writer🍉 :
But what I'm thinking Is: what these person think the suitors where going to do to Penelope in the Odyssey if Odysseus didn't ☠️them???
2024-12-31 09:35:35
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therockenross :
what was she upset about this did kinda happen in the poem and the movie the suitors said fuck the challenge and said we should just take the thrown, our lord Jorge just made it a BOP
2024-12-30 12:33:42
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Frogger :
I introduced my friend recently and I had to make it clear that epic Odysseus is a good person (more or less) and book Odysseus needs all kinds of help.
2024-12-30 18:57:57
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D54G0N.exe :
Didn’t Jorge make a TikTok cuz people were studying the odyssey with Epic and he said don’t cuz it’s a retelling and not entirely accurate 😭
2025-01-01 13:17:16
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Arti :
I just wish he added 2 more songs into the saga: split up Penelope's song (maybe stick it in the Wisdom saga) to focus on the shroud and waiting for Odysseus (full speed ahead motif) and then the
2024-12-30 17:58:39
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