@joshgrisetti: Too many BFA programs? Too many actors? Discuss. #musicaltheatre #musicaltheatremajor #musicaltheatrekid #musicaltheatretiktok

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horsegurl5ever
Kellie :
we don’t support the idea enough that your passion doesn’t have to be your career. You can have a great 9-5 with amazing stability and perform in your local theater and be just as happy if not happier
2025-05-09 16:59:50
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climber1874
climber1874 :
“I don’t know that one Bway show in your 50s is worth sacrificing all of your youth.” This is EXACTLY why I walked away, and it was the best decision I ever made. I did the calculus and decided 1/3
2025-05-09 05:25:33
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thatbasicboringlife
basic lady :
this is an extension to the whole question of publicly funded higher education.. when it is privatized or partially funded by the student, they become a consumer or customer that is seeking a service. whereas in publicly funded higher education, like we see in Europe, higher education is part of the welfare state, tax system and corresponds to the labor market. the government cannot justify spending more tax money on BFAs for example, when there is a desperate need for other professions. it becomes a 'waste of tax dollars.' so those art colleges in Europe are highly competitive because they are so small.
2025-06-10 07:55:12
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meghanmanahan
Meghan 💪🏻 :
As a talent agent who has seen probably 40 showcases or more this year, you’re absolutely right.
2025-05-09 14:49:35
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elledubbs712
ElleDubbs712 :
You are spot on and can be traced back to a specific cultural moment in the 00s. I wrote my PhD dissertation on this. Currently developing into a book on the history of MT training.
2025-05-09 08:07:12
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officialmoviepass
officialmoviepass :
Also if we had govt arts funding & investment in regional cities’ arts programs & theatres, there would be more cities where you could make a living in theatre, and they wouldn’t all have to be in nyc
2025-05-09 05:25:19
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juliahcomedy
juliahbly :
You don’t need a degree to be an actor, so??
2025-06-28 19:46:02
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marciax3nyc
Marcia Marcia Marcia! :
I think (on paper) that’s what worked about the OG format for joining AEA. You had to work a lot to earn your points, or book higher prestige jobs. If that wasn’t happening you’d take the hint.
2025-05-09 11:49:09
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justsomeguy779
JustSomeGuy :
I was a progressional actor and went to school for it. Gave myself five years after graduation to see some movement in the career. I didn’t, so I left it. I’m 40 now with a family and a good insurance job. Couldn’t be happier!
2025-06-10 10:58:59
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__genesee__
Genesee :
I think the current BFA programs are not training their students to see anything other than NY and LA and ATL for options . There are not more contracts but there are always more new graduates joining the casting pool. That said, I worry about gatekeeping and what becomes valued and who gets excluded who could potentially change the whole game
2025-07-28 13:22:52
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omararules
Kathleen O'Mara :
I would say the problem is these programs are churning out the same type of talent and not helping them diversify to be real working actors, just MT ensemble members
2025-05-09 11:42:49
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gracenyberg
grace rosemarie :
many of these schools also make it impossible to minor/double major, if theatre doesn’t work out, you don’t have anything else to fall back on.
2025-05-09 17:50:57
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caitlinoliviacarter
caitlinoliviacarter :
absolutely - same with the preaching that if you have a “back up plan” you don’t “want it enough”
2025-05-09 04:35:05
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smalltownprogressive
Small Town Progressive🇨🇦 :
I think it’s the cost of the American BFA. Where you go so in debt to develop yourself as an artist that you can’t survive as an artist without ‘making it big’. You can’t be a theatre teacher or do commercial theatre in your city and survive. It’s the cost. As a Canadian parent who did not send her talented kid to the US because of it.
2025-07-01 04:40:42
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brimaddrum
✨🤡Brian 🤡✨ :
Yes, and! There are too many BFA programs who are telling their students that their only option post grad is to move to New York and be an actor. There are too many programs that fully ban or heavily discourage students from diversifying their academic experiences. What if someone was a BFA MT student who was also on a Pre-Law track? Or Pre-Med, even? The idea that a student wouldn’t be a committed and successful student in a BFA program while aspiring to other career paths feels reductive and outdated.
2025-05-09 04:35:42
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cbentertainmentlaw
CB Entertainment Law :
Bring back cuts. It is brutal, but so is commercial theatre. Bring back gatekeepers. In the U.K. equity is toothless.
2025-05-09 04:45:44
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shan_gaffney
Shannon Gaffney 💋 :
In my opinion, the problem isn’t accepting more BFA students - the problem is selling that the end result HAS to be performing on Broadway. There are so many ways to have a career in theatre
2025-05-09 11:57:59
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katiesah
Katie Sah :
People should be making art for free. The problem is the money side of acting
2025-06-14 18:39:50
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rhyswashington
Rhys Samuel :
I would also say there are a lot of MT performers who can’t act… they can sing beautifully but charisma vacuums. I have been behind the table and seen it too often
2025-05-09 14:40:33
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notthatbrent
Brent :
Marymount did this when I went in 2015. At my audition they said the max size was 30-40. There were MT’s who could not hold pitch…
2025-05-09 04:09:05
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nocoastroast
Burning Toast :
More BFA degrees and FAR less opportunity. Both oversold and unfair.
2025-06-21 06:35:08
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gamingshoj
Shoj :
I blame glee
2025-05-09 18:04:00
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mimifhskdh291
mimi :
The answer is telling people when they aren’t good enough. Everybody seems capable of understanding this when it comes to the Olympics, but lose their minds when it gets applied to the arts.
2025-05-09 11:53:19
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sanfrantiktokfan
SanFranTikTokFan :
This problem isn’t just BFAs. If you changed all references in your video from BFA to JD, you’d be describing law schools. With both, if you’re not admitted into a top 20 program, you shouldn’t go.
2025-05-09 07:20:35
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