Lab Muffin Beauty Science
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fitz :
There’s been crazy misinformation flying around about Choice, I just had to correct somebody who said they were owned by the Daily Mail? I think a lot of people don’t realise what a reputable organisation they are.
2025-06-17 01:48:55
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Youlalla :
If it was really due to decanting, that would mean the same SPF drop happens after you apply it on your face.. that’s not exactly a good defense, is it?
2025-06-17 14:27:26
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Israel😼 :
it's weird how skeptical people are over this but they were quick to jump on purito all those years ago
2025-06-17 04:50:02
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rushworld :
I don’t like how UV approached it with “Choice was wrong, we are right, and we stand by that”, rather than accept maybe their formula isn’t as stable as they’d hoped, and use it as a learning for their next product, UV flooded social media with damage control, felt weird
2025-06-17 23:58:03
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CORKYSAINTCLAIR :
why would Choice magazine fake results or be accused of ill intent toward Ultra Violette? when CHOICE is a non profit whose only mission is consumer advocacy? Also if CHOICE warned Ultra Violette in March and then retested in May why didn’t Ultra Violette post their own results first, to take control of the narrative?
2025-06-18 11:31:33
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Chiswickchic :
I saw some bad “expert” takes on this. Do you think the rising social media popularity of cosmetic chemistry has led to more people using the title “cosmetic chemist” after only completing short diplomas or online courses? I wonder if this might blur the public’s understanding of the profession and weaken its scientific credibility when the term is used so loosely, and the public’s scientific literacy often is such that they can’t tell the difference in a diploma holder vs a PhD.
2025-06-17 03:36:36
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Punished zedak :
Would love some stats on how many people passionately arguing learned and started using the word decant this week 😂
2025-06-17 09:36:53
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Harry :
Not the first time Australian spf has failed a test like this though… Bondi sands failed a test by the UKs version of choice called WHICH
2025-06-23 10:32:15
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Birdbitch4 :
The biggest issue overlooked here is storage and transportation. Brands test the product they’ve manufactured and stored according to direct. Coles, Woolworths, chemist warehouse transport and store these in roasting ambient warehouses/trucks. Stock is left in the sun at busy loading docs etc
2025-06-18 11:47:08
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h008981 :
Sunscreens that tested poorly were mineral susncreen (mainly Zinc oxide based) probably because they were decanted and zinc oxides are known to degrade quicker than others. Another thing might be because zinc oxide needs to be properly distributed in the formula medium to be effective as sunscreen, so many instruct that to shake well before using, since they have decanted it the zinc oxide might have settled or they weren’t able to mix the formula properly.
2025-06-17 21:50:01
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Valley & Caine :
Should they be tested products that are available in stores or having been in typical conditions at different storage temperatures? That is, if temperature has destabilized the formula in some ways? Normal sunscreens we use don’t stay in aircon 24/7. Some formulators commented that their formula had no silicone or coating agent to make the zinc disperse more evenly, limit clumping. Any thoughts?
2025-06-17 22:31:29
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Whoopssssss :
Love seeing this balanced and science based take rather than the misinformation that has been spread!
2025-06-17 02:32:43
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Aska :
choice used eurofins and normec for this brand, ain't they? gosssh... they cooking 😁😁😁
2025-06-20 01:06:25
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NatoosikL :
I wonder now if the us version is potentially spf 4 too cause I use it. the formula should be different compared to Australian version
2025-06-17 01:56:55
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user6322227652631 :
Love your take on this. I need testing for chemical sunscreens now
2025-06-17 03:57:05
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northcoastmum :
I have super fair skin, live on the North Coast and go to Bali 3 times a year and use Ultra Violette and have never had sunburn when using their products. Anecdotal, yes, but proof is literally in the lack of sun burn, blisters.
2025-06-26 10:33:03
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Crystal Jane :
Thank you for being a reasonable, rational expert! it's very reassuring
2025-06-18 02:51:58
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Amelie :
Non-related question - can we layer chemical under physical sunscreen?
2025-06-18 20:34:19
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00000000 :
Can you please try Lancaster - they’re a great European brand that makes my favorite SPF. A bit pricey but great quality ❤️
2025-06-18 11:11:40
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🌈Dani🌈 :
were all of the low rating choice tested ones mineral sunscreens?
2025-06-18 09:19:57
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Dr.Arfa Khan,PharmD | R&D+QPPV :
What about other products with different results if decanting was a factor??
2025-07-20 15:33:24
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del preston :
Can you please look into and possibly discuss the lab (Princeton Consumer Research Corp) UV use for their testing, the less than stellar history of its co-founder, Barrie Drewitt, and how this company seems to promise potential clients they will get them the results they want before they’ve even seen the product…? https://truthinadvertising.org/articles/princeton-consumer-research/
2025-06-21 18:42:11
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void :
as long as it's SPF30 it doesn't matter. after SPF30 we should be more focused on UVA protection.
2025-06-18 14:35:39
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Jennifer Engelhorn :
Tysm for this, it was definitely the neutral, curiosity driven, informed take I needed to read. I’ve felt like my brain has been in a centrifuge trying to make a call on this for myself going forward, and now I feel like I can do so. Always appreciate your content. 💕☀️🧴
2025-06-30 11:42:48
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neuroqueerwaffles :
Can you suggest sunscreens that actually work and that are also safe for acne-prone skin?
2025-06-17 08:46:44
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