@coltenbarnaby: Jesus didn’t die to satisfy God’s wrath. He was lynched by a world that always kills its prophets. James Cone calls it the Cross and the Lynching Tree and it might change everything you think you know about salvation, justice, and who God really is. #christiantiktok #christiannationalism

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ibv007
ibv007 :
The fact that people think they're like the Apostles and not the Roman Empire
2025-07-14 22:39:33
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aba_comics
Aba :
I see it like thus: God COULD have saved his own life by destroying the Roman empire that was trying to destroy him, but Jesus dying on the cross was a demonstration that God would rather die brutally than resist evildoers, like he said in the sermon on the mount. In doing so, that same Roman Empire eventually legalized Christianity under Constantine, and even made it the national religion under Theodisius I.
2025-07-15 02:11:33
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indiablanc64
indiablanc64 :
It never made sense to me. The animal sacrifice, the child, and human sacrifice. And also that would never fly today - imagine me telling the judge I’d serve a criminals jail sentence so he could walk free, that’s not justice??????
2025-07-14 17:52:42
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sovereignagogo
Roger Dodger :
…not demanding violence but enduring it.
2025-07-14 07:21:11
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sergeantrob
Sgt Rob 🇺🇸 :
I really appreciate your logical approach to deconstructing the flaws in Christianity using your theological background
2025-07-14 03:47:18
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tjho11and
sckwrk :
everyone here should look into eastern orthodoxy, Christianity unchanged.
2025-07-14 21:32:07
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davidwhite13737
davidwhite13737 :
There can be no remittance of sin without the shedding of blood.
2025-07-14 03:47:00
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adegoke_hans
lgwebuike :
I love (black) liberation theology :) Pls, can you do more about liberation theology or maybe Jürgen Moltmann's "The Crucified God" ?
2025-07-14 17:23:18
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iamhunterbailey
hunter bailey :
one of my favorite books. unlearning penal substitution and shifting to a restorative view of the cross instead of punitive and retributive is so necessary.
2025-07-14 06:42:07
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almareacts
Almarea :
This theory undercuts the seriousness of sin. The wages of sin is death. We cringe and say what kind of God demands blood? But he gave his own instead. That’s Mercy and love. We are all so uncomfortable with a God who demands justice, until we are selves are wronged and pray for justice ourselves. The idea that Christ died as protest undercuts the value of the life of Christ, and misses the point of his mission on earth, he accomplished protest and teaching in his ministry. Didn’t need to die to make a point. He died to see us free from the sin, to concor dearh, and restore relationship with God.
2025-07-15 13:01:13
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_50shadesofrae_
Rae 🦞 راي :
PLEASE MAKE A PODCAST IM BEGGING
2025-07-14 14:32:39
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thebhamp
thebhamp :
Read the cross and the lynching tree in commerce and it broke me
2025-07-14 11:07:29
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kuffpah0623
Kuffpah :
Hi, Colton. This was a fascinating listen, even for this atheist.
2025-07-14 16:18:55
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nerdwings
NerdWings :
Hello, I’m an exvangelical (now atheist) who was raised on this theology of Devine punishment and bloodlust. I did not know that there was another kind of Christianity. Thank you.
2025-07-14 23:42:23
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theosis23
Thomas :
PSA is definitely one of those theologies that I just could get behind in college, it’s so opposite of Jesus. Am loving your talk on empire, it’s resonating.
2025-07-14 04:24:39
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bimbo_bagging
Bimbobagging :
this answered a burning question of mine
2025-07-14 04:33:23
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canadian.by.choic
Canadian by choice :
My mother was a devoted Christian. Not perfect. She was generous and kind to people who had things go wrong in their lives. Penal substitutionary atonement does not make any sense. My mother did nothing that would merit any punishment.
2025-07-15 20:57:11
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user234858473273842738583 :
The obsession of blood and violence and cutting *kinda weird lmao
2025-07-14 17:07:52
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curiousnicole
Nicole :
How do you think this relates to Girard’s scapegoat theory of atonement? Does Cone refer to it at all? I feel like it’s very similar, but I feel uncomfy with lots of Girard’s other philosophical framework.
2025-07-14 06:51:32
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lemonypeeling
Lemony :
genuinely asking, how do you reconcile this with old testament animal sacrifices?
2025-07-14 13:13:17
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ghgoodridge
Gerald :
It’s important for us to remember that Christus Victor was a more common theological framework than PSA before Calvin got involved.
2025-07-14 16:08:28
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donaldcyscosmith
donaldcyscosmith :
Do you have any other book recommendations?
2025-07-14 13:13:07
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jennboliver
Jenn B Oliver :
It should be required reading for ministers it’s so hard to get through though 😪😮‍💨😭
2025-07-14 13:55:24
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bblbiden
bbllover :
Could you elaborate on Romans 6:23? the way i understood it was that the just punishment of sin is death but because christ paid that price for us, we don't have to-- making death unnecessary. "Through Christ our Lord" does that mean just for those who believe and follow Christ or alluding that it was for the world through him. I ask that second part because in John 3:16 it says "whoever believes in him"
2025-07-14 14:35:16
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deathofanomad
Nomad :
That ideology is always birthed and sustained via the doctrine of a sin nature. The idea that we are born sinners is not scripturally sound when you understand the Bible from the Hebraic perspective. It dictates we are born good (not perfect) and via our family systems learn and experience sin that we perpetuate in our lives.
2025-07-15 11:44:45
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