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Fyrefyst :
thank the universe for people like you and Thorin
2025-08-06 01:37:30
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danielwiebe283 :
I might agree with Thorin here. Boys need to hear these qualities frames specifically as masculine. It doesn’t mean that other genders don’t show the same qualities, but they need a tangible and appealing alternative to toxic masculinity.
2025-08-06 02:41:39
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Ian Burford :
This is why I have such a hard time with gender at all. Like I know some ppl experience gender affirmations, but I haven’t been able to think of one thing that applies to one gender but not others.
2025-08-06 06:05:48
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iceprincess23.. :
Some men need to hear this from a man who looks like him and framed in the way he framed it. ♥️
2025-08-06 13:05:01
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JRShire :
A real man is swift as the coursing river, with all the force of a great typhoon, with the strength of a raging fire, and as mysterious as the dark side of the moon.
2025-08-06 16:39:44
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Beth :
Wellllll Doug and Thoren are two of my favorite TikTok men so I love seeing them on one screen
2025-08-06 02:43:26
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Brenna Lynn :
I am so glad you discussed this the way you did. Bc so many men think they’re enlightened saying “good men are honest and brave” and it’s like 🤨 so im a good man? What?!
2025-08-07 17:13:26
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CantCancelReality :
The biggest issue with this rediculous gender war,is that there is a gender war at all. We need to focus on being good people.
2025-08-22 22:13:03
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RationallyDense :
What if qualities of manliness are supererogatory? Maybe some kinds of courage are healthy, but not necessary to be healthy. For instance, a lot of people don't display much courage in work settings. I think that's reasonable. We all need to pay for rent and buy groceries. But maybe an attribute of being a "real man" is that you're the person who stands up to the boss despite the risks.
2025-08-06 05:25:58
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Matt Stache :
Totally agreed. Also, the concept of "real men" implies the existence of imaginary men. 😁
2025-08-06 14:00:01
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Figgy_Art9 :
I think there are as many ways of being a man or male or masculine as there are men. But also it’s okay to not be wholly male or manly, and still feel connected to the gender or genders you identify with. Just be a kind empathetic person. And how you identify is your business.
2025-08-06 17:25:43
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Becca :
I think what he meant was “a constructive member of society”
2025-08-06 12:58:34
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Part-time-human :
I did a project in a gender studies class in college where I had to ask a man "what is a real man" and ask a woman "what is a real woman", so I asked my aunt and uncle each their question. They both gave the same answer: be kind, take care of the people you love, be generous, be helpers, etc. Literally just be a good person. 👍🏻
2025-08-24 17:01:06
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James :
Peterson holds up lobsters as role models for dominance hierarchy in men. Dominance we have in common with a species so old it doesn’t have a brain or a spine. Maybe we can put more value on the primate and uniquely human qualities.
2025-08-08 20:08:12
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Gina Gilstrap :
I think he was not talking to “us.” He was talking to “them.” Sometime you have to met them where they are.
2025-08-06 21:21:37
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ndychik :
There needs to be more people that identify as men to be emotionally mature and deconstructed as yourself and Thoren. Love your perspective!
2025-08-06 10:40:59
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MarkLoewen.Music :
We need to just try to be good men instead of real men.
2025-08-06 21:37:48
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Sarah :
I always tell my kids that the quality of a good man are the same that make a good person. Same with women.
2025-08-06 02:28:16
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lithiumqueen :
I'm not a man, but I think that this is so true.
2025-08-06 02:19:51
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teresataptt950 :
Your definititions are correct, though. That is being "manly". Not being gruff, unavailable, dirty, insecure etc.
2025-08-07 03:40:42
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mitchskinner742 :
The term “a real man” is a powerful manipulation tactic for people who fear being belittled or put down. It works like this: Do what I want, or you’re not a real man. Ideas like this are often instilled in you as a child, and then you pass them on to others—control through fear. If you don’t think so, ask yourself: Is it a safe and valid option not to do these things?
2025-08-11 19:48:31
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Geek Papa :
Thanks you. Thoren’s post rubbed me the wrong way and you put some of those thoughts to words. But my ex also accused me of “not being a real man” so that phrase is always a bit triggering for me.
2025-08-06 15:59:22
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wji :
it’s kinda interesting, i agree with both. i think thoren’s approach assumes “some definition of masculinity” is something that WILL exist in the foreseeable future so we have to change that definition. (before we abandon it completely!)
2025-08-06 04:25:43
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Gnat Ott :
I think what makes the best men are those who understand their privilege & use it to benefit the group. that is what separates masculinity from not masculinity
2025-08-12 00:38:27
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