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🌸 Eevee & Link 🌿 :
With respect to agility, showline Goldens are not as athletic as field line Goldens. They have too much bone to be able to execute jumps as efficiently as a lighter boned dog, and they take more strain on their joints with every single jump because of it. If you look at the placements at nationals, the invitational, etc, showlines are getting beat by field lines every single time.
2025-08-07 00:26:17
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RetrieveGoldAgility :
Please tell me - what is your experience in agility? Because I’ve put a MACH and 2 PACHs on a showline Golden. I have a fieldline Golden now. My showline girl absolutely did not “keep up” with the field line Goldens. If by “keep up” you mean qualify…yeah. But in terms of speed and drive, it’s a completely different experience running a showline Golden in agility than it is running a field line Golden.
2025-08-06 22:44:28
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WolfyRain :
a dog to meet the standard should be able to work and do conformation. if the dog cannot work it shouldn't be in conformation because it doesnt meet the standard.
2025-08-26 18:42:08
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Klin :
This! I’m not entirely sure about goldens, but in labs, there is not even supposed to be a split. There is ONE breed standard. “Field lines” are not supposed to be crazy, lanky, zero coat, skinny tails, narrow heads, etc. and show lines are not supposed to be fat and lazy. There is one breed standard and it’s somewhere in the middle. Most field lines look absolutely horrendous when comparing their structure to the standard, and show lines should be able to do everything that people claim a field line can do. But as I said, there is not even supposed to be a split, but backyard breeding has caused these hyper types and now people think it’s some sort of competition between whether “field lines” or “show lines” are better when technically they should all be fitting to the exact same breed standard 🤷♀️
2025-08-06 22:42:49
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nick :
it just feels like field line/working line is an excuse to breed out of standard, boarding on hypertype dogs with unstable temperament. a show line dog is the standard and can do both
2025-08-07 12:07:14
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Olivia Vescovo, CPDT-KA :
I’d love to see more conformation breeders to also get at least WCs or JH on their dogs. I believe hunting ability needs to be proven in addition to conformation CH. I’d also love to see more hunt trainers show their dogs in the ring. Personally, I prefer the less heavy boned, less droopy flew, and easier to maintain coats of field lines. One thing I LOVE about my field line Goldens is that I can swim them and put them up wet and never worry about hotspots or ear infections. They also have fantastic off switches. I can not work them for like 2 weeks and they’re totally fine to just hang out around the house. We are in conformation classes and doing the CCA at the GRCA National Specialty this year, and I am hopefully going to get to show my girl in Gundog Sweeps next year. I’m also adding a conformation line Golden soon! He will hopefully be the first dog with hunt test titles in the breeder’s lines and she’s been breeding for like 40 years.
2025-08-07 06:02:12
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KP :
I'm not deep in with goldens. but as something who tried to hunt with my poodle in southern California, I can see why the hunters in hot climates wouldn't want a show line golden. if it's not the heat melting the dogs, the cockleburs are causing chaos in that coat.
2025-08-07 01:19:52
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lutikkaluca :
I need power, speed and some spice. Not clumsy, heavy and slow dog that acts like it is on sedatives half of the time. I dont want to have a coat that is ruined by breeding so it is overly soft and serves zero function in actual work or makes the work harder for the dog. I want a dog that works, not a dog that looks certain way. Get a working dog and you will get it
2025-08-12 13:27:07
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Shari :
My show Goldens do hunt tests, obedience and rally. In fact I have a hunt test this Saturday and a show on Wednesday. Mine do it all.
2025-08-07 01:44:02
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logsnlou :
honestly our split is so weird to me because like you said…. they don’t fit the standard both temperament and structure wise…… like then what the heck are we doing? i’d much rather a dual purpose SL that conforms to their origional and intended purpose
2025-08-06 22:20:50
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boxrib :
The whole point of the show standard is that they can perform the job they were designed to do. The show line/vs field line trend on here irks me so much… most people participating in it just have two byb dogs and one is overweight and elderly “showline” and the other is a neurotic teenager “field line” 😐. my showline golden is a born athlete lol, they’re supposed to be high energy.
2025-08-07 17:05:33
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caroltrains :
I pick field line labs because I care about winning in various dog sports, and their temperaments are superior compared to breeds that typically win (mals, BCs, sport mixes) 😄
2025-08-07 04:40:28
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GoonieDogs :
I don’t know enough about goldens or hunting to comment on that, but BCs are another breed discussed to death in regards to this. As someone with SL dogs- I think the difference in temperament and energy is way over exaggerated, but the working ability is a night and day difference unfortunately. But in herding, their instinct is 99% of the equation.
2025-08-08 00:44:40
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Lindz lens & the tiny terriers :
this might be controversial (Golden's aren't my breed) but is it possible a lot of "field line" Golden's are actually just byb dogs that are insane bc they aren't stable?
2025-08-07 00:25:59
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Claire :
Ok I agree because isn’t a well bred golden supposed to also be able to fit not just the conformation standard but also the standard in terms of the original working purpose of the breed???
2025-08-06 22:14:01
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JuJu :
I have field lines goldens and they do in fact HAVE an off switch. One is a therapy dog and one is my working service dog. I’ve had goldens for 18 years. I have put multiple MACHS, master titles, obedience titles and do field work.
2025-08-07 02:00:32
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ez.hi.paws :
I 100% agree with you as someone who owns a field line. However, my field line definitely has breaks. He’s gone from doing FastCAT to flying on an airplane as my service dog within an hour. As a disabled individual, having a dog that was capable of settling and not working daily was so important to me. Fortunately, His off switch is impeccable and that’s definitely something that more field lines need. As I continue in Goldens, my goal for my own program will be breeding moderate versatile dogs that can do everything while having drive and an off switch, but that’s years down the road.
2025-08-07 01:40:15
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Lally :
I don't get it either 🤷🏻♀️like I'd rather have a SL that has dual titles. I'm more educated with hounds like I would rather have a whippet that is a dual champion in the ring and coursing. Also drive varies, and I would rather have a dog with a good off switch even if the drive is not the full 100%. As long as my dog has some drive and can prove what the breed is meant to do is enough for me
2025-08-06 22:59:30
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Christina & her spaniels 🐾🐾 :
Ope, I feel this exact way about my breed, English Springer. My brain won’t let go that they need to be a moderate well rounded dog with correct temperament, structure and drive.
2025-08-07 02:08:27
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Danielle :
This is the correct take. I love my show line Golden Retrievers. They have a switch and they never let down when I turn it on. They also conform to their standard. Which, imo, a vast majority of “field line” dogs I see don’t.
2025-08-06 22:46:12
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Frank and Carl :
In the griff Westminster ring in 2024 there were 3 Master Hunters in the ribbons including mine :)
2025-08-07 18:53:21
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MMMenagerie :
I think American/english labs and goldens should split into different breeds. More people esp in NA want and need warm water retrievers that are taller, thinner, with a waterproof but thinner coat. Preserve the original breed and develop a new one that better fits our changing climate and need
2025-08-07 22:24:23
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Myranda Klein :
I have a showline golden that I hunt birds with and compete in shoot retrieve bird dog comps with and she absolutely cannot “keep up”. The original way a golden was bred absolutely could it all they way they were meant to but what’s winning in the ring has way more bone and coat than the original purpose bred goldens. They cannot hunt for hours at a time at a steady pace and their costs pick up everything and take a lot to maintain. Hunting is a lot more than hunt tests.
2025-08-07 11:24:10
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Renae :
Not to mention hunting is sessional and hunters don’t need a dogs that is going to be completely wired every single day
2025-08-07 02:10:46
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