@philosophyminis: The cosmological argument is probably the most popular argument for the existence of God, and it's when somebody says that the universe has to have come from somewhere. It's an argument from first causes, and it argues that the universe has to have a first cause, the first mover, a metaphysical something that flips the first domino, that sets the story in motion. One of the earliest and most lucid variations of the cosmological argument goes back to the Persian scholar Al-Ghazali, but it's been popularised more recently by the American scholar William Lane Craig. This is how the argument goes. First, everything that begins has to have a cause. Second, the universe had a beginning, and therefore, the universe has to have had a cause. The argument hinges on two premises. Does everything that began to exist have to have a cause? While Lane Craig argues that this has been proven by the widespread and universal observation of cause and effect. But the second premise asks whether the universe has to have had a beginning. And here, Lane Craig argues two points, one from cosmology, and one from mathematics. In cosmology, Lane Craig argues that the Big Bang is still the best theory that we have for the start of the universe, which implies that there is a beginning. A lot of Lane Craig's work goes to show that while infinity might be possible in mathematics, it's impossible in the real world. There cannot be an infinite regress of causes to the universe. The universe has to have a cause, and so it must be caused by something.
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Then that god must have been created by another creator.
2025-09-08 14:00:11
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Tom Carr :
It's funny when Theists use this argument like "EVERYTHING has a cause, except conveniently this one being"
2025-09-09 23:01:48
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phantom_wizy :
It is conspicuous that there is no mention of Thomas Aquinas?!
2025-09-10 19:19:06
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Cj 🇦🇺 :
where did God come from? who made God?
2025-09-08 21:50:17
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Klasu :
Why should cause be god?
2025-09-10 18:27:14
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Peleksandros 🪓⚛️🦧 :
So many problems with this one. First of all, a first cause argument isn't an argument for God, but an argument for a first cause. God is often smuggled in as a preferred conclusion, but the argument doesn't argue for it, and Gods aren't even a candidate explanation to fill this role of being the first cause. If anything, it would probably be something incredibly simplistic, like a quantum fluctuation causing a phase transition in some sort of scalar field. Not a conscious humanoid entity with an immaterial brain and intentions. Second, the Big Bang was not the start of the universe, it was simply an expansion of a pre-existing universe. We don't know if the universe has a beginning. It might as well be eternal. Also, if you presume the first cause to itself not have a cause, that's special pleading, and you'd be better off, and more in accordance with Occam's Razor, to move this forward one step and simply presume the universe itself to not have a cause, if you insist to end on a conclusion. Even better would be to simply say, "we don't know".
2025-09-09 18:23:11
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tgn313 :
Who created God?
2025-09-09 22:49:35
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YouHaveIdentityCrisis? :
This proof for some reason triggers atheists the most to point they straw man the argument that God must have a cause too
2025-09-10 13:29:56
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🌹🌴zayan khan🌴🌹 :
Universe itself has on commensense so has matter But we see a miraculous order in it why is it so(
2025-09-13 15:46:02
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user7365867855169 :
This is an argument for a creator, not necessarily God.
2025-09-09 20:14:34
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Fybo.C :
Let me give you another one argument. A surprising one. Science is an Argument for the Existence of God. Why? The first premise of Science. Univers is a Stable and Coherent (Everything plug-in as dominos). Whitout that, what are we trying to find? If Science is real, somebody build how Univers with laws, probably God. those are what we are trying to find and use accordingly.
2025-09-09 00:39:16
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google_prepper :
Who says it has to have a first cause?
2025-09-09 19:58:12
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Mister Pord :
but wouldn't the first cause have to have a cause?
2025-09-10 18:23:00
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Guy Fox :
It’s obviously the invisible man in the sky
2025-09-09 22:37:13
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Sylwester :
Iff God exists then she also need to have a beginning, and thus an equal or more powerful creator?
2025-09-11 00:36:00
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Sideeffect :
With all the difficult problems to tackle, how can anyone waste their timing trying to prove or disprove a God. It’s like setting great scientists to prove or disprove Santa Clause
2025-09-09 21:32:26
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ℍ𝕒𝕟𝕒𝕕 :
Is causation temporal or atemporal?
2025-09-09 12:11:46
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Shaun Stephen :
so when do you stop asking "well what caused that"?
2025-09-09 05:20:48
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scavocreo :
this argument is easily disproven by the weak nuclear force, as the decay of atomic nuclei is totally random and has no direct cause-effect
2025-09-10 08:17:05
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AlmondwithaV :
The people saying "God needs a cause too" either don't understand the argument or don't understand how philosophy works.
2025-09-11 06:22:45
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Rui Rodrigues :
what is the cause of existence of god 🤭?
2025-09-10 16:32:21
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sneekypete_bc 🇨🇦 :
what cause the cause?
2025-09-08 19:00:12
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Treasure Seeker 74🇨🇦 :
It's only compelling if you assume that time always existed. Time is an aspect of our current universe and so it is nonsensical to posit "before the universe" as even a concept
2025-09-09 11:23:08
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fluffygreycat19 :
“Everything must have a cause” may just be a logical attribute OF this universe, and that would mean that attempting to apply it to events or states of affairs outside of or prior to this universe wouldn’t be meaningful, or at least not predictable and definitive in the manner we have come to expect.
2025-09-09 02:19:26
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TikyToky :
How on earth do we know everything has to have a cause?? We have no clue what’s outside of this universe, and what physics exists outside of it.
2025-09-09 21:41:21
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