@babbity.kate: Why are there no young men in Honor To Us All (thoughts on the Class A worldbuilding in Mulan) #mulan #disney #movies #disneyprincess #tiktokretrocontest

Joy :

So different from "A Girl Worth Fighting For", where the women are idealized and theoretical (or disguised, in Mulan's case)

flors :

My favourite moment is when they are singing “a girl worth fighting for” all the guys are talking about women whilst Mulan finds a bear dropped by a dead little girl and that becomes her girl worth fighting for 🥹🥹💔💔

n3v3rmind31 :

It’s also cool to hear later what the men actually want. Some of it lines up, but not a lot

arbeeez :

When writers say “show don’t tell” this is what they mean. All of the fighting age men have left for war.

J :

I love a critical analysis of Disney movies or children’s media at large

Skål Kid 🎷🐛 :

and later when we finally meet Li Shang, we finally learn what REAL young men want: ✨ BRATTY FEMBOYS ✨

chibiRADE :

She doesn’t learn “what men actually want” until the last song of the movie “a girl worth fighting for”

tori :

would be cool to do a venn diagram of how the ideals from this number and a girl worth fighting for intersect and where they differ

Anenthemonae :

Also! The matchmaker called her "too skinny" the closest we get to hearing what a man would actually want before she leaves the comfort of her community is already a contradiction of what she was told beforehand

Lea Kierysch :

As a child I thought those stylists set her up since they said a tiny waist was important. But the matchmaker called her too skinny😭

emilyortizzz25 :

🍪 I love the idea that Mulan just never interacted with men her age until the camp (which adds to the hilarity of her trying to pretend to be a man, but she has nothing concrete to work with)

incipiental :

everyone shhh i'm in class 🍪🍪🍪

user37427847354 :

it's also interesting that we later get an entire song sung by young men about what they actually want in "a girl worth fighting for" and it's not the same things the old women sing about

Mini :

Holly :

🍪 such a good representation of how patriarchy is upheld by the society as a whole, not specific individuals (like in beauty and the beast)

Maggo :

🍪 Another point is that in the background you see other young women being prepped for the matchmaker as well with similar levels of appearing overwhelmed and having older women fussing over them.

Zzzz Zzz :

Maybe it represents the invisible man/internalized patriarchal standards that women have and how men never need to uphold the system

cyantorily :

This is such an awesome analysis, you opened my eyes to things I wouldn’t definitely not have noticed

Yourlocalhuman :

this scene is kinda like the manosphere and looks maxing community in that sense only the genders are swapped around. just men telling other men what women want while not measuring up to their own standards and never actually asking the women.

Bi.Fi.Activated :

This and "I'll make a man out of you" is such fun gender irony

Almeyra :

I LOVE MULAN SM BROOO 😭❤

Kitsune369 :

🍪 I have watched this movie a million times at least… and I have never once realized that there are no marriage age men around!

Autisticdisnerd :

🍪 A Girl Worth Fighting For is such a good mirror of this song because it’s also men telling other men what they want in a woman and supporting each other’s types…except when Mulan talks about a woman having autonomy and then they immediately dismiss it

linad12340 :

First! Also I have, in fact, come to claim my cookie!

Dreya :

I love that we see Milan’s positive attributes in her interactions with the older and younger men in this scene - she’s smart, kind, and has as strong sense of Justice