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skrtcobain :
marx failed to consider when communism no iPhone
2025-10-26 22:57:43
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Sliver (Lilla jag) :
Marx failed to consider labubus
2025-10-26 18:26:01
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Mini Diogenes :
"Marx failed to consider borjwazee is hard to spell" is so real😭🙏
2025-10-26 21:37:39
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Justin roberts :
Marx failed to consider that maybe u would be a little sleepy on the day the revolution takes place and i might miss it because i slept in
2025-10-26 19:58:44
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Squeaktoad :
my favorite “marx failed to consider” was when someone seemingly sincerely saying that marx failed to consider the suez canal being blocked by a ship, and then someone cited a piece of capital that used almost that exact example
2025-10-27 05:09:12
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TheDrownedGod :
Marx failed to consider that bourgeoisie is very hard to spell
2025-10-26 21:07:36
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JD🔘🔻 :
It’s genuinely such a privilege to hear your thoughts
2025-10-26 17:02:21
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Bryan, History Teacher :
I’ve only ever seen “Marx failed to consider…” in a sarcastic fashion because he considered nearly everything
2025-10-26 19:39:46
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Shavi :
Marx failed to consider how based it is to flex on your haters
2025-10-26 20:08:03
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CMILLNE1 :
this is an argument of perspective. I can see where both are correct takes but Moten is giving a perspective Marx could never have and should probably listen to. He centers black oppression bc he’s black and it’s an idea for Marx but it’s the life lived for Moten.
2025-10-27 07:03:33
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Cosmicsponge2004 :
Marx failed to consider that I don't know him like that
2025-10-26 19:48:22
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pjtr :
This is an excellent example of why identity politics has become capitalism’s favoured tool against the left - unable to challenge a genuine Marxist and revolutionary reading, they have clothed themselves in the appearance of progressive positions while individualising oppression, attempting to subvert class analysis in the process.
2025-10-27 00:40:25
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aath Adam :
Marx failed to consider the subjectivist nature of value
2025-10-27 01:18:21
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Frozmo🏳️⚧️ :
”Marx failed to consider (something he wrote 500 pages on)”
2025-10-28 06:50:54
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ramen_0182 :
"Marx failed to consider" and it's always something Marx wrote in length about
2025-10-27 00:39:39
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microplastixxx :
Marx failed to consider that once the social relations of production are understood, I’d become insufferable at parties
2025-10-27 08:10:58
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seyi :
whew, this is a rlly cool debate bc there’s validity on both sides. thank you for bringing it to this platform! but your reading of Moten doesn’t feel conclusive / compelling, interestimg nonetheless
2025-12-24 19:21:14
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HangeSimp𒉭 :
Marx failed to consider no iphone🥺
2025-10-26 19:48:43
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Ziggy Page :
They failed to consider that Marx deadass considered damn near everything. Anyone who says otherwise has not read Marx.
2025-10-27 17:39:11
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ShamGod :
Moten isn’t an Afro-pessimist…this is quite consistently documented by him discussing this *with* afro-pessimists.
2025-10-27 10:34:31
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Winsotn Chou :
i think it’s worse to act as if chattel slavery DIDNT strip enslaved black people of their humanity.
2025-10-27 07:59:51
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Armon Eugene :
I think YOU don't quite understand the point of moten and Afropessimism. In fact I find it very telling that in the end of this video here you try to frame Marx's analysis as aspirationally optimistic while framing moten's as unintentionally pessimistic and thus giving in to white supremacy (You're inability to decenter white supremacy which is not the same as antiblackness is also telling). 1.) Moten does not identify as an afro pessimist so I find that naming him as such is odd. 2.) YES! Slavery does transform you into an object and Marx's hesistancy to assert that is not valiant it is at best naive, and it also highlights the fundamental difference between exploited workers and slaves because they are not the same ontologically. 3.) Afro-pessimism asserts very vocally that "Humanity" is not a universal constant that we should be aspiring to. Humanity as we know it feeds off and requires nonhuman consciousness to recognize itself as itself. The function of slavery does not begin nor end at labor. Slavery has shaped the sociality of our society from gender, sex, sexuality, to the way we organize our political apparatus. The "human" has fed off of us to create its coherence and it cannot exist without us as slaves which Marx must have some grasp on since he derived his theories from Hegel's Master/Slave dialectic. The human, the self, the subject are not these pure truths or aspirations. They are maintained with violence. So why would Marx's optimism on the human be revolutionary to me?
2025-10-29 19:54:07
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Páll :
Also in Marx’s own definition, black people are not commodities. A commodity is not a definitionally a “thing” that is produced. For Marx, a commodity is a “thing” that is produced by labour with the explicit intent to sell. This is paraphrasing, his definition is more rigorous than this. The error Moten makes, is that he uses his own or contemporary definition for what a commodity is, which is most definetly not the same as Marx defined in capital. Much of Marx is misunderstoos or misread because of the translation from German to English.
2025-10-26 23:36:26
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Boo!🍉🍉 :
I don’t necessarily agree with Marx or your interpretation of what Marx means when you say he says slaves don’t lose their humanity. Humanity, Honesty, and honor were attributes Slaves were denied access to. You cannot be human and traded, hence why they went to great lengths to argue Slaves weren’t human and had no humanity. I think Marx’s definition of a commodity is narrow, and in doing so excludes the very real reality of Black people worldwide even today. We are both the commodity and the worker, literally.
2025-11-14 15:09:30
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Andy T :
Why do we have to make Marx infallible and inherent? Marx did in fact fail to consider many things becsuse is human. His ideas are much more valuable when we allow him to be just human so we can actually engage with his work intellectually instead of dogmaticly.
2025-10-29 14:58:51
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