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𝐃 𝐃𓍝 :
So, first off, our language that predicates God is purely analogical. If, say, God would be good like we were good, then He shares a category with the created and the transcendence fails (no longer maximally great). So, when we make up these "arbitrary" categories for a model of God, it's important that the limit of language be understood. Now, with all that said, there's a difference between the being and ontology of God and His relational reality. God is one ontologically since there is no other like Him. However, relationally, He exists as three persons (the term person is used because it's a very societal term, because, again, our language is very heavily analogical). The Father, Son, and Spirit, all share the same ontology of God, but they do not share the same relational properties. Even if the Father had all the properties of God, it does not necessarily entail that the Father had all the properties of the Son, so that the Father is the Son and the distinction collapses. You say that it does because, "x is identical to y, therefore x is y." But a better analogical model (see the word analogical again) would be, "x contains the properties of z and other distinctive properties, y contains the properties of z and other distinctive properties, yet x and y are not identical."
2025-11-08 05:32:51
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Michaelphysics :
The Father being identical to the divine Substance is a relative identity statement, and by this sortal is He also identical to the Son. According to His relation, however, He’s major really distinguished from the Son and Spirit
2025-11-24 20:46:09
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Ash :
The son is God by identity and not predication, when we say the Son is God by identity we r not saying the father and son are 1 hypostatis, in Trinitarian theology the Son is ὁμοούσιος with the Father, divinity is predicated of Him essentially, not accidentally, so He is God by identity of essence rather than merely God by participation or description. Saying the son is God by predication implies Arianism, because it reduces the Son’s divinity to a secondary or derivative attribute rather than affirming His full identity with the one divine essence.
2025-12-19 08:48:28
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Folk Theology Transition :
This was hilarious lol 😂
2025-11-11 17:41:48
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Christianity Up Close :
Hey can or would you be willing to give me a short description of what Partialism is? I don’t k ow we got far with this guy so I wanted to get the point that brought this up.
2025-11-12 18:10:43
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Name :
Composition in God 🥀
2025-11-20 16:39:02
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BROVblue :
If the Father can do something the Son cannot (and vice versa), then they differ in ability. If they differ in ability, they differ in essence. If they differ in essence, they are not one God. Therefore, Trinitarianism either collapses into partialism (each person is part of God) or tritheism (three gods).👍
2025-11-08 06:28:44
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BROVblue :
If each person of the Trinity has only part of the divine essence → that’s partialism (each is a fraction of God). If each person has the whole essence but is distinct → that’s tritheism (three Gods). Therefore, Trinity as it’s believed , cannot exist !
2025-11-08 06:11:10
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Godfirst☦️ :
bro tries to explain God with his "random chemical created" brain. God is outside creation that's why we cannot comprehend his Nature
2025-11-08 04:13:55
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Scott Sponaas :
Your argument only works if you assume that “God” is a single person and that “is God” means numerical identity. But in Trinitarian theology, “God” refers to the divine nature and “Father,” “Son,” and “Spirit” refer to three distinct persons who fully possess that one nature. So yes, the Father has all the divine properties. Yes, the Son has all the divine properties. But that does not make them the same person any more than two humans sharing all human properties makes them the same human. Using your argument, I could make the fallacious argument that if John is human and Peter is human, then John must be Peter. Why? Because Peter has all of the properties of a human being and John has all do the properties of human being, so they must be the same person. You’re mixing up two categories: 1)Nature-properties (shared) = what something is 2)Personal properties (unshared) = who someone is The Trinity only becomes “illogical” if you collapse those categories. But once you keep nature and person distinct, as Trinitarianism always has, there is no contradiction at all. Your argument commits a classical category error.
2025-11-18 02:47:33
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georgenathan :
Is there a single bible verse that remotely backs up your claim
2025-11-08 03:35:26
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If being God is a predicate of the Son then by the definition of what a predicate is the Son would be God by his essence lol
2025-12-07 14:16:51
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