@sydragosa: Why is cloud so important to Sephiroth? There’s also definitely a more Jenova centric angle to explore that I might talk about in the future hehe #ff7 #ff7r #sephiroth #cloudstrife
This is a point I fundamentally disagree with. Sephiroth in the OG is not obsessed with Cloud; Cloud is obsessed with him. It's not even really Sephiroth in the original game as much as it is just Jenova.
2025-11-30 20:38:26
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Luis :
I mean who isn’t obsessed with Cloud tho
2025-11-30 22:21:37
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Aware Wolf X4 :
My headcannon is that Cloud impaling Sephiroth leads to him losing his legs once he enters the Lifestream. At the Reunion when Cloud hands Steph’s real body the Black Materia, he’s just a torso. And neither Bizzaro / Seraph forms have legs either. 🤔
2025-11-30 19:36:43
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tysonlasley2 :
They're in love.
2025-12-01 02:28:23
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Rayan :
I’ll cut it short. It’s because cloud is the only other perfect experiment
2025-11-30 22:12:54
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heyitsowlman :
Fr, if I was convinced I was a living god and I was fatally wounded by Henchman #16 I’d be some kind of nettled.
2025-12-01 12:49:26
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RogueSpade :
I love the idea that Sephiroth is dumbfounded that a no name grunt defeated him he decides to turn him into someone and one of the most important people. But the more brilliant part is this is all because of Sephiroth and his dna. Sephiroth went no your special now and it's all tied to me! I beat me, not some random grunt!
2025-11-30 18:34:31
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Colin M Charles 🇨🇦 :
Sephiroth believes that length is better than girth, and Cloud disagrees with him but Sephy just can’t accept that difference in opinion.
2025-11-30 21:56:23
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Sailor Vanity :
Imagine if you hit Sephiroth with a draw four in Uno...
2025-11-30 20:46:55
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HarleyUsername :
I wish he were obsessed with me 😔
2025-11-30 18:13:14
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AJ Sandhu :
Something I don’t see more people talking about is that Sephiroth was in the Shinra Manor Basement for 7 (SEVEN!!) days and didn’t eat or sleep at all. A human brain, even one like Sephiroth’s wouldn’t be able to prevent depersonalization and psychosis. The perfect space for a virus to thrive. And I know real world rules might not apply, but I’ve always wondered if Sephiroth is gone and it’s all Jenova now. I know that the lore says he overpowered Jenova’s Will… but a virus like Jenova has no “will,” and wouldn’t the desperate attempts of a virus to stay alive look a lot like Sephiroth’s obsession with Cloud? The only living creature with Jenova Cells still inside of him? It’s pretty interesting that after “overpowering Jenova’s will” Sephiroth’s will is exactly the same as his “mother.” 🤔
2025-11-30 18:51:25
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Lex_1429 :
Remake is 100% a sequel to Advent Children and I will die on that hill.
2025-11-30 23:37:04
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wolken1engel :
can't blame sephiroth for being obsessed
2025-12-30 11:38:42
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Nest of Novelties :
I love talking about the progression of Sephiroth’s fixation on Cloud throughout the Compilation. In the OG, Sephiroth treats Cloud like a disposable tool. Then, after Cloud defeats Sephiroth yet again, we get Case of Lifestream Black where Sephiroth spends pretty much all of his time thinking about Cloud, going so far as to essentially rewrite himself with Cloud at the center. It’s fascinating to me. I think Sephiroth perhaps is undergoing a similar progression of thought regarding Cloud that Hojo does in the OG. Hojo initially dismisses Cloud as a failure only to realize later that Cloud was actually the only success. I think Sephiroth views Cloud as the closest to a being like himself as has ever been created.
2025-11-30 20:17:11
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Sabz6969 :
after the remake and rebirth, I kinda decided it was because no matter what timeline it was Cloud always beat him and he assumed it was because fate guided him into doing so
2025-11-30 21:35:15
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Fae Emperor :
Blonde Twink catches literal demigod off guard and gets the jump on him and basically gives him an ego death.
2026-01-20 10:52:49
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kev :
aren’t we all obsessed with cloud?
2026-02-15 16:34:21
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Sadrica :
Cloud has a genetic -> his cells are too weak to fight Jenova's, AND he's a weak will, that's what makes him the perfect guest for the parasite -> that's why he is so strong (he absorbed Jenova like a sponge, unlike Zack Fair for example) -> that's the non-emotional explanation (see Crisis Core)
2025-11-30 23:08:57
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sergiorodriguez5569 :
It also helps that Cloud was the most successful Sephiroth clone all the others were severely degraded and worse off mentally compared to Cloud
2025-12-01 14:47:15
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Llain Yrees :
based on playing the original ps1 game, thats not sephiroth, that's jenova. you don't actually fight him until the end of the game
2025-12-03 14:32:17
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dokiedokie048 :
so my question how did cloud beat sephiroth which is the biggest joke in the game. Sephiroth is legit the ultimate soldier and cloud is just a rookie
2025-12-01 07:46:56
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Daniel Wiseman :
That loss has made Sephiroth see Cloud as his back up plan. Another Kadaj if you will. It is very much an Orochimaru/Sasuke situation.
2025-11-30 21:34:50
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Thiccatron :
There’s one thing I’ve never understood. I don’t mean to sound power-scaley or anything like that, but how physically strong was Cloud before Hojo’s experiment on him? I used to believe that he was just too weak to be in Soldier and that he was basically just regular human strength. But I’ve heard through the grapevine that it turns out he WAS physically strong enough, he just failed a psychological test to get into Soldier. I know that in the long run it doesn’t matter that much, but it’s something that’s been bothering me lately.
2025-12-01 13:25:54
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blessedrenaissancetarot :
I’m so happy that we have reading comprehension in the gamer space… thank you for your service, You are a blessing to all of us who enjoy well structure, story telling👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
2025-12-01 17:03:55
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Zaide. :
Sephiroth has definitely seen the events of the og game. The entirety of remake is cloud just teasing him about that. He shows up constantly to manipulate cloud and get him so worked up that he’ll defy destiny and kill it just to have a chance at killing Sephiroth early and he almost does with omni slash at the ending of remake but because Sephiroth knows that move now he blocks it perfectly. By the end of remake you lost because you gave Sephiroth an actual chance to win and gave him the whispers.
2025-12-01 11:08:01
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