@philosophyminis: Anti-natalism is the idea that it is wrong to have kids. It argues that anybody who chooses to have biological children is immoral. One of the earliest and most cited proponents of anti-natalism is David Benatar. Benatar argues that we each give an 'unreliable assessment' about how good our lives actually are. We say things are great when actually life is far worse than we let on. Humans are optimistic. We tend to focus on the rare and fleeting moments of happiness that pop up in the long night of misery that makes up reality. We shrug our shoulders and say, 'Oh, it's not that bad,' when actually it really is. The only reason we delude ourselves this way is so that we can carry on the species, because evolution doesn't want us to accept the fact that life is misery. Evolution wants us to be optimistic, because that is what lets us reproduce. But Benatar says that we are rational beings, and we can go beyond our evolutionary priming to recognise that life is suffering. And so Benatar's conclusion is that it is immoral to bring children into a world so full of misery, suffering, and hardship. And he explains it this way: 'each of us was harmed by being brought into existence, because the quality of even the best lives is very bad, and worse than most people recognise it to be. But it is not too late to prevent the existence of future generations.' So, is Benatar right? Is life just misery? Do we pretend things are much better than they are? And is it wrong to bring children into a world such as this?
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Friday 19 December 2025 18:54:14 GMT
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M(Strich) :
Nobody, almost nobody ever has children for the childs sake
2025-12-20 00:08:46
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Seema :
bringing children into this world is inherently selfish, there's no justifiable reason for it except for our own selfish needs and wants. I think we need to die out, no more future generations, and certainly no violence involved to achieve this. I've experienced some truly beautiful and happy moments in my life and even at the height of my happiness and pleasure, I've kept these beliefs
2025-12-19 21:19:40
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DeBeau’sGhost 🏳️🌈💙💜💗 :
Me the antinatalist getting ready for this comment section
2025-12-19 22:35:53
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jiraiyaerosennin8 :
Anti-natalism is western individualism in its final form
2025-12-19 19:04:13
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onxcal :
On top of that, it's almost exclusively selfish. People force children to exist for their own benefit, but no one wants to say that.
2025-12-20 01:54:43
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User281927 :
I'm starting to believe this. Between the environment, billionaires commidifying every, racism, sexism etc how much we are taxed. Why would I want to bring another person into this?
2025-12-19 20:02:29
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Maya Mitchell :
I found my people
2025-12-20 11:21:35
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JollyIQ84 :
An anti-natalist is someone who had the priviledge and the curse of seeing life (and human nature) exactly as it is.
2025-12-20 01:50:12
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Jon ᖭི༏ᖫྀ :
It is egotistical to have children. YOU want the family, YOU want the experience of raising a child. Humans, having gained the ability of logical reason, should reject what is obviously just a primal instinct to secure our genes get passed on.
2025-12-21 03:04:52
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jaykowalski :
lovely to finally have a name for this. I’m an antinatalist
2025-12-20 01:57:10
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zarixoxox :
Yeah why would I want my child to have to work for the rest of its life and be controlled by the elite? My child will never suffer with life.
2025-12-20 00:28:23
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catutz00 :
He is right. Human life is not a blessing and many ppl delude themselfs into beliving, it is but a curse.
2025-12-20 07:33:35
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Camcam :
Fianlly my people
2025-12-19 23:03:38
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private27456 :
I mean working 5 days a week is a problem.
2025-12-19 22:46:40
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ZenobiaEleanorFoxhound 🇨🇦 :
He’s right.
2025-12-19 20:50:28
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Ashley F 🇨🇦 | HMUA :
I feel like having children is the epitome of narcissism
2025-12-20 18:59:10
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Izzy <3 :
I fear that this is me lol
2025-12-20 05:19:45
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godq3 :
Life is work untill death.
2025-12-19 23:13:28
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星空・トレイ₉⁹₉ :
hes got a good point
2025-12-19 22:58:39
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Siraj :
I didn't realize I had adopted a philosophy I hadn’t even heard of. I don’t think it’s immoral, but I truly don’t understand how people keep reproducing! I can’t believe we have regulated so many other animal urges, but not this one. When someone tells me they are 'expecting,' my first reaction is: Why? I really want to get inside their minds to understand—the idea of having a baby feels so bizarre to me
2025-12-19 20:25:22
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Annette🏳️🌈🌈 :
The femicide and Sa in my country is through the roof.The government does not care. I refuse to bring a child into that.
2025-12-20 06:34:29
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Lux | Finance and Home :
key point of Benetars views is that not being born is neutral, so even if life only has one bad moment, you are doing worse to bring someone into the world than to not have them at all
2025-12-19 21:12:10
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turboboa :
Even during the best times in life I've thought "this is good, but oblivion would be better" no ammout of joy can outweigh the suffering it takes to live even a comfortable life. he's absolutely correct. I would never inflict the burden of life on someone
2025-12-19 22:35:23
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M-J :
We really do find it easier to fathom ending the human race before ending the systems that cause our suffering like feudalism or capitalism, huh?
2025-12-19 23:15:25
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