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futurememory :
They seem to forget that if I listened to the audiobook and you consumed the physical book, that we can have a full conversation about the text that we’re engaging with WITHOUT KNOWING how the other ingested it.
2025-12-22 00:48:30
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Justin 📚 :
I genuinely believe the “audiobooks aren’t reading” people think we are saying the modes of consumption are physically/technically identical. No one is saying that. We’re saying they are equally effective and valuable. I don’t think it’s necessarily ableist to say they’re physically distinct but it’s never just that. They diminish people who listen to audiobooks and try to exclude them from discussions/communities which IS ableism. People act like words can’t have more or less technical meanings depending on the context.
2025-12-22 03:41:05
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Vingatiili :
idk in my case I just like when people use correct words for activities. I don't care if you listened to the book or read it, because there are people who read only dialogs in the books, so... we can also say that people who refuse to say it that they "listened to the book" assign less value to listening because they don't even admit that.
2025-12-22 07:30:14
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Rachel :
Former librarian and current media studies PhD student and I can chip in my two cents — I agree audiobooks count as reading and they are not contributing to either the literacy or media literacy crisis. We have studies that show being read aloud to — even as an adult — helps with literacy and helps with understanding work above someone’s reading level.
2025-12-22 01:31:21
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not justin :
So as a k-2 teacher who teaches reading, there is a difference in children listening to books vs. being able to read them. But we’re not children! AND comprehension is primarily taught in those grades by the teacher reading. It’s a stepping stone! I want kids to find joy in books and that happens from reading out loud to them!
2025-12-22 02:34:08
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ੈ✩‧₊˚༺thuto༻*ੈ✩‧₊˚ :
being in online book spaces i’ve seen the same audiobook discourse be recycled almost every year for the past decade like imagine how tired i am 😭😭😭😭😭😭💔
2025-12-22 01:33:06
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Books N’ Betches Podcast :
You break it down real nice and clean, truly, but I think we all know this an elitism thing. It’s a “i am smarter than everyone bc i read x amount of books a year and most people don’t read any” and now you have ppl reading more books than they read ina year in just q1 alone. Their intellectual value has been so firmly attached to being a “reader” identity type, having other readers reading 2-5x more than them is crippling their ego. You’re so incredibly right, this whole convo is semantics and not actually a conversation about anything of value. Thanks for putting that to words for me.
2025-12-22 01:43:47
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Charmaine | 📚🍵💃🏻 :
It boils down to people wanting to be exclusionary. They want reading to be one thing and one thing only because that makes themselves feel better/more valid
2025-12-22 00:48:30
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purekatherine :
i’m convinced that people who pull out the dictionary definition of reading don’t enjoy the action of reading physical copies and think everyone should “suffer” through for it to “count” like they do.
2025-12-22 00:58:04
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Abby :
I’m visually impaired and have a lot of totally blind friends, several of these blind friends have big tech jobs and scientific research jobs. Braille is useful for reading labels and signs and menus but for long form communication (like a whole book) most blind people who have the ability to hear prefer to receive information via audio. What this looks like is a B/VI person using text to-speech settings to read out texts, websites, research papers, books. Or things read out loud by a human. Oftentimes a B/VI person will increase the audio playback speed so fast that someone outside the community wouldn’t be able to understand it. Of course, not always. B/VI people live in a majority sighted world and therefore use words like “I saw John yesterday” “I just read the news.” The idea that we’d say “i listened to the news” has a whole different meaning. When we “read” ourselves we do so independently and on our own time frame, breaks if we want, speed up or slow down. To “listen to a book” implies that we needed someone else to come read it to us. I’m so tired of my experiences reading being invalidated, ever since my eyes got too tired to read books for pleasure.
2025-12-22 13:37:11
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Petra VonCunt :
I don't understand the anti-audiobooks crowd. Stories used to be shared orally and it wasnt unheard of for people to read books to their families or friends as a pastime. You still engage with the text and take something from it
2025-12-22 19:20:11
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HeyKatieKutthroat :
I’ve always loved to read, gifted books by friends and family, it’s my thing. I haven’t cracked a spine since by second child was born in March because I’m so busy, if it wasn’t for audiobooks, my book count would be at like 3 for this year
2025-12-22 17:45:23
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lee :
People that say it's "listening" not "reading" can't contextualize the word "reading" I like the Cambridge definition; "the skill or activity of getting information from books"
2025-12-25 17:40:37
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Mystery Magpie 🐦⬛📚 :
Adult Learning expert here. Audiobooks and physical books are encoded the SAME way in the brain. These people 🙄
2025-12-22 02:56:09
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Book Ace :
"your brain can be off no matter what format you're reading in" THANK YOU
2025-12-22 09:03:47
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Debby Stragier :
I also wonder what those people think of blind people who read in braille?
2025-12-22 13:22:41
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Lit for Littles ZA :
School librarian here.One of the most classically well-read children I've ever taught had dyslexia.Her family listened to audiobooks.
2025-12-22 05:05:30
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Roxanne - thenovelsanctuary :
As a librarian it always warms my heart to see people defend audiobook reading 👏 thank you, always, for all of your hard work, Mari
2025-12-22 01:17:46
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Katarina :
I get people saying they read 60 books and lumping audio and read books together. It’s a quicker and easier was to communicate the info. I don’t get people who believe they are the same thing, they’re not. I can read a sheet of music and I can listen to it. I can watch Romeo & Juliet as a movie & as a live play. They’re all different, yet all equally valid. When did pp start feeling bad about listening to audiobooks? They’re awesome! Why wouldn’t you be proud of how many you listen to?
2025-12-22 01:12:19
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Natalie Meagan :
The way that sometimes hearing things said out loud can connect things in your brain is not talked about enough. Context clues and being able to figure out that context through the narration is so helpful
2025-12-22 00:33:47
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Maggie Qwerty :
As a life long teacher and avid reader, I agree with your every word. Their puritan position is extremely ableist. I gave this example before, (many times in fact), I always ask them how they would classify a group reading where every person reads their part out loud for the group, and Braille readers, because according to their definition, they touch books, not read them. Or finger books, for that matter.
2025-12-22 08:00:18
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Molly021812 :
I think a reason they do it is to disqualify the people who read more than them. They hear someone read 100 books in this year and can’t/don’t want to understand how they could do this so if a person did some of those 100 on audio they use that as justification as to why they did not hit a similar number, rather than focus on how they spent their own free time.
2025-12-22 00:42:18
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sweeneysays :
on topic: A+ thoughts as usual
2025-12-22 00:32:30
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Wild :
I had a teacher in high school who used a podcast as one of our core reading pieces for the year. So that year I read Winesburg, Ohio, Fahrenheit 451, Lord Of The Flies, and the first season of the Serial true crime podcast, before everything got messed up because of the pandemic. It was an incredible idea on her part to teach us story analysis and gathering information from what we’re consuming. She was my favorite Language Arts teacher ever
2025-12-22 02:24:24
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