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Ernesto :
excelent crew following it's company SOP's and being super polite declining ATC instructions.
2025-12-29 10:25:51
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MatouA335 :
Why being shocked ? Controller is providing a service. The commander is ultimately the only responsible for the safety of his aircraft and he doesn’t have to comply with an ATC clearance if he deems it unsafe or against his company policies.
2025-12-29 05:24:10
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Fumi :
“You follow my order”…. Unbelievable! If they crash the autority will blame the captain for accepting it!
2025-12-29 10:51:19
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cosmincalancia0 :
The pilot was right. Without access to the MRVA/MVA chart, the crew cannot verify terrain clearance below the published MSA. Company procedures require refusing such descents. ATC issues clearances, not orders, and any clearance may be declined for safety reasons.
2026-02-06 14:22:58
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JJ :
The crew did excellent. The controller is there to assist and not to order anyone. The crew elected to stay higher and the controller MUST accept and assist.
2025-12-29 09:36:10
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Kapten_Y :
As an airline capt, i’d say that it’s an excellent move by the Pilot, while still being polite. Flights are bound not only by airport charts and ATC, but also by manufacturer (aircraft type) limitations, state regulation, national law, company policy, and operator (airline) restrictions, on top of that, Commander’s safety discretion.. If an instruction plays against any of the one of those, it is his right to be safe and request for a more conservative clearance.
2026-01-30 07:43:03
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ginov1101 :
When an aircraft is under radar vectors, it is the responsibility of ATC to ensure a safe altitude.
2025-12-30 03:51:41
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Ranger1907 :
You don't order.. you help. You guide safely
2025-12-29 20:08:40
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niloit09 :
3600 is the altitude restriction 2200 is the msa the captain here was wrong
2026-01-14 04:19:08
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ojomeek_97 :
I dont think that frequency is a good place to discuss. Ubable means unable. Controller should not discuss about it, they may discuss it later on after landing
2025-12-29 10:49:10
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Emi Berzerk :
Unsafe to discuss with the pilot on the final. The atc should lnow better how to handle it.
2025-12-30 12:13:15
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radomes5 :
Can someone explain technically who is right here or what the issue is?
2025-12-30 00:12:39
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Ron Pravioli :
Pilot is in charge not ATC.
2026-02-16 06:55:30
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Memes in the air :
Pilot made a great job, ATC is not giving an orders here, he is there to control and assist.
2026-01-29 08:12:52
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Jani sharmie :
how come he can accept missed approach 3000 feet?
2025-12-29 20:40:15
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can :
they have radar control, atc can give radar vectors, he doesn’t have any idea about what he is doing.
2026-02-17 09:03:30
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KR :
You’d think the alternate go around instructions would also be 3,600.
2025-12-29 17:12:03
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🐊 :
Its not the ATC fault if their company didn’t provide them charts, its his airspace i don’t think they know his airspace more than him. Imagine coming to my house and i tell you the toilet to the left and you tell me NO ITS ON THE RIGHT.
2026-01-24 11:22:25
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Jose Enrico B Villac :
the pilot/capt is very polite and calm, explained very well/clearly that their sop prevents them from doing it, and asked for a different approach to accomodate them since they dont have the appropriate chart
2025-12-31 06:18:22
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sheikh_ismail :
These incidents happens in Oman
2026-01-13 17:37:32
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ifly-320 :
😭😭
2026-01-06 12:29:04
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Ильяс 🇵🇸 :
So, in mountainous regions, it is common to have your ground radar to be physically limited, therefore having higher vectoring altitudes than following a published procedure. Turkey is one example of such environment. To avoid ATC error (usually w ego issues like here), such airlines ask their captains/crew to cross check the vectors against a minimum vectoring chart (radar capability limited). If such vector is lower than the chart value in this sector (radar limited), such vector shall be declined. Has nothing to do with msa. Yes, msa is the obstacle limit, but you are not safe to go to an altitude that is lower than radar capability while not following a published procedure. Does it make sense? You are literally invisible to the atc and not on a published procedure. Hello, who wants this gambling?
2026-01-23 18:59:23
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epic_troll_hunter :
should have canceled the approach and vector him to an alternate
2025-12-29 04:16:33
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Saniy Salim :
why does the pilot sounds like he graduated from air India??😏
2025-12-29 01:31:21
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