@ppe_clips: Alex O’Connor debates and discusses with Italian Bach and Arthur TV why he has CHANGED HIS MIND to think that Materialism is false?!? #bachandarthur #philosophy #materialism #debate #usa

eamondaly1 :

This is an entirely unsound argument btw.

nnmonster :

the fall off of alex is tough, this is just a simple argument from incredulity.

John Smith :

This is assuming that consciousness is actually a “thing” and it’s not just an evolved system for processing information

Bobby :

Consciousness absolutely can be created with "bunch of atoms"

CthulhuOnATrex :

from a scientific and logical viewpoint, he is spot on

Valley_River :

We dont know materialism is a fact but no other explanation is nearly as sensible

Macro :

Sad Alex simply asserts consciousness cant come from inert material.

Chloe :

Very common Alex L

Rapscallion :

bro denied that conciousness emerges from physical matter, then proceedes to demonstrate how conciousness emerges from atoms

user8482304036526 :

‘Science doesnt explain what anything is only how it acts’ is my least favourite of Alex’s takes, of course it can’t and neither can philosophy that’s just how language works

temporary symmetry :

It’s obvious that he didn’t studied particle physics and quantum mechanics, because he yet knows the classic explanations

user1754446523919 :

“Science can’t explain what stuff is, only how it acts” what? Using his example, an electron is a fundamental particle. Thats what it is. A particle that can’t be broken down anymore. An electron is a fundamental particle, made of matter, with a negative charge, a fixed mass, a spin, and zero volume. By describing its properties we are describing what it is. Or his other example, what is mass. Mass is the effect of the Higgs Field interacting with matter. Thats not what it does, thats what it fundamentally is. I don’t get it, is he trying to play some word game im missing?

Vinny :

How is consciousness fundamentally different from memory? Both seem to be different neural processes using the same physical machinery. If memory can emerge from physical material, why is consciousness treated as impossible to explain that way? If we question memory the same way we question consciousness, we run into the same problem

Chris Stones :

Software can’t emerge from hardware?

mb777 :

TheNextEra :

Pretty much like saying sound is a different kind of thing to a computer so there's no way putting a computer together could produce sound. Low point for Alex

Del Rebovich :

if you can't explain what mass even is then how you can definitely say consciousness doesn't emerge from mass?

Glewk :

'I don't like the descriptive nature of definitions and language, therefore my consciousness must be divorced from the laws of physics.' ?????

desperateBeauty :

impressed he got there.

Rationalism :

How has he debated so much and seems so open then just makes an argument from incredulity lol

Quick Raid :

if you keep asking why, you'll eventually get to a mystery lol

Jaiden Karoline :

Well I mean consciousness doesn’t work without your brain, if you physically alter someone’s brain their consciousness will also alter in many ways so it can’t be separated from the material world 🤔.