@sowylie: ok maybe you need to know a few things to learn a synth but you can also just turn knobs and see what happens :) the full steps i took to get to that sound: - used the Tl to sequence a rhythm and take the octave down - increase the depth of freq mod, waveform set to triangle - change the source of my pulsewidth mod to LFO2, make it fast (this is the higher pitch you hear) - increase the depth of the pulsewidth mod. THEN - make the FM source LFO1, make that LFO slow and triangle - add brightness using positive exponential frequency mod - mode lowpass filter and up the resonance - up the decay on my envelope for more bounce