@thegentleindifference: thoughts on Hegel and Theosis. #philosophy #theology #hegel #orthodoxy #christian

Amanda :

I appreciate the poeticism, but these ideas are simply not Hegelian. Hegel’s Geist isn’t connected to etymology or emotional states, or mysticism. It’s the self-developing Spirit that unfolds through history and human society. Comparing it to Theosis completely misses the point. Hegel’s Spirit develops through logic, contradiction, and mediation, not divine grace or mystical union. Treating it like a spiritual or emotional process confuses the kind of thing Hegel is talking about. It is a system of rational, historical development not theology.

Virenya :

Forgive me bc I’m very inexperienced in these subjects (even tho I’m orthodox lols). So you’re seeing a parallel between these two philosophies because in the same way we are able to know and experience God through his energies we are able to experience and know the physical world in the way we interact with them? And Kant would disagree with Hegel’s view because all we have are presuppositions of the physical world?

khol_ga3da :

Have you explored Islam?

rottingspacefig :

are you doing well my love?

an :

I feel that they only cooperate structurally in negating Kant’s dualist noumena/phenomena idea but diverge immediately afterwards because of the way in which Hegel conceives reality becoming what it’s known by (shattering transcendence entirely) while Eastern Orthodox thought still distinguishes our reality (God) from our thought as He self-discloses by Grace and participation. In a way I feel that Eastern Orthodox thought, particularly with Palamas, sits in between Kant and Hegel since transcendence is admitted, but it is not unknowable. The actual question of participation in one’s ‘reality’ (however it is differently interpreted) is very interesting to think about - great video!!

CorwinJPollard :

Hegel being raised in a Christian society probably integrates itself into his philosophy, even tho his philosophy is atheistic

demani :

to me it sounds like ur basically rediscovering what loudovikos, o'regan, and to some extent rowan williams have all been circling around. “analogical identities” by loudovikos (he’s critiquing hegel through st maximus the confessor) and “the heterodox hegel” by o’regan would be great readings for you if you haven’t already delved.

Zane :

I might be misunderstanding but I’m not seeing a clear thesis beyond a loose structural similarity. Also the etymology doesn’t really carry weight esp since only ghost is actually cognate with Geist. And Hegel’s Geist is a historically mediated account of self consciousness, not a personal uncreated God whose energies creatures partake in by grace. Theosis preserves that ontological distinction, so unless the claim is just that both reject isolated subjectivity I’m not sure what’s actually being clarified

alex_1991_00 :

Hegel is a Temu Nicholas Of Cusa, who is among the greatest of the Rhineland mystics. The Hegelian dialectic was inherited from Cusa who actually affirmed Theosis as Theosis is a western concept

xanderinchaustegui :

This deserves to be a paper

darian :

Would you mind giving us a guide to philosophy books? I’m new to philosophy and wanna have a good start

maria :

loved this lesson! thank you professor j

eve :

need a Substack piece to this!! ✨✨

Nadia ɞ♡⃛ʚ :

Do you have a substack? I’d read it everyday <3

Lucas Simonian :

Paradox and confusion are guardians of the truth ;)

safarijournalco :

W.

michæl :

Leo ひ :

psico.flavio :

I do think Hegel's dialectic is very close to christian theology. I think Paul (the apostle) is very much a dialectical thinker. Just look at the way Paul articulates in Romans the fundamental terms of Christianity, law, sin, grace, salvation, etc. These concepts don't have stable definitions in the way Paul uses them, they're mutually implicated by a series of immanent contradictions.

Alada :

Hegel’s understanding of God and Geist being the same single spirit just tells me that he was much more of a pantheist than an actual orthodox theist

Ikranrin (IJ) Makan :

You’re getting close.

sienna :

what is your substack???

Sloane :

I love this super interesting

paleologus :

Yooo Kelly is inquiring into Orthodoxy. Amazing