@drtoddphillips: Lucifer wasn’t a fallen angel, at least not in Isaiah 14. In Part 3 of this series on the evolution of Satan, we look at the passage many Christians were taught explains Satan’s fall. Isaiah 14 is actually a taunt against the king of Babylon, not the origin story of a rebellious archangel. The Hebrew phrase Helel ben Shachar (“shining one, son of the dawn”) was later translated into Latin as lucifer, meaning “light-bringer.” Over time, Christians began reading that poetic image as part of Satan’s story, even though that’s not what the passage is about. This is how the character grows. A political poem becomes part of a cosmic backstory. And once you start noticing that pattern, you begin to read the Bible differently. #Deconstruction #Exvangelical #FaithJourney #leavingchristianity #deconstructingchristanity

Jesther 💍 :

Lucifer and Satan are two different entities

giovst :

Luke 10:18. And Jesus said "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven". In ancient Greek it reads the same.

ATLaS ConTenT MacHinE :

lucifer is not his real name all angels end in EL

Linque :

This is interesting n im curious as a pastor. Please where is the teaching on this. Thank you

Inviting Wealth :

Lucifer and Satan are not the same thing. Satan refers to the planet Saturn.

Guy Talk :

he didn't fall- he was cast out! Big difference.

Poifix :

Plus there is only one Archangel. And that's Micheal.

Jon :

Now comment of Ezekiel 28 and explain how it is just talking about the king of tyre.

Alan :

he was cast out of heaven

Z I O N :

Stars represent angels, stars falling from the sky are fallen angels.

bigtime welder :

Shaun Meyer :

Agree...I tried to get this across when I was in ministry many year ago.

ricky :

light-bearer* not bringer

SmellyCatchIt :

I am not a pastor and I am deconstructing and find it hard sometimes. I can only imagine the struggles you have some days. I hope you are doing well.

rus1858 :

Without both light and dark, creation does not exist.

StruanMackay :

Your story is fascinating!! I could talk to you for days, i have so many questions 🙈😅

user45 :

It's called a double reference, Isaiah speaks about the king and Satan as well

usagimychild :

So there’s no Lucifer?

Erick48 :

Lucifer was a cherub, not an archangel.

BackdoorShenanigans☘️ :

Lucifer never fell