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chiara✨ :
"before we shook hands with the devil and invented whiteness" is one of my new favorite phrases
2026-03-06 02:04:14
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Spencer Sunshine :
They weren't white because white people weren't invented yet.
2026-03-06 07:17:02
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estilochukeño :
remember skin color is an adaptation not an indicator
2026-03-06 01:36:28
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Terazok :
Anachronism is the biggest hurdle many people face when understanding anthropology and history.
2026-03-06 01:42:18
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Chad :
as an almost history teacher and now anthropologist working towards a doctorate with a focus on ancient Iberia this is everyone's official reminder that race in the way that we think of it today was a concept invented by Spain and Portugal as a way to trace bloodlines back to Iberia and have a higher social status. This is also why many Spanish families have several last names - they're tracing descent. There were of course other compounding factors in Europe at the time that pushed global culture towards the concept of race as we know it today but there is a very strong argument to be made that without Spain and Portugal it wouldn't have happened the way it did. Also, without their beef and the Catholic Church we wouldn't have had chattel slavery, but that's a conversation for a different day. (I also say this as a second generation Portuguese descendant)
2026-03-06 03:15:40
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Glenn’s Irish Setters :
Pale skin evolved in Europe some time between 3000 and 12000 years ago. Europeans 40,000 years ago had very dark brown/black skin.
2026-03-06 04:23:29
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Papa Gritty :
the point we should be taking about the proto writing evidence is that our species had the capability to do it even earlier than we previously thought, so we should be looking at other sites around the world to see where else it may have independently started
2026-03-06 10:46:28
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treeowl 🏳️🌈 :
Also also, the fact that this might be the earliest proto-writing we've discovered so far does not in any way, shape, or form mean that it was the first proto-writing. The vast majority of things made by every culture ever have been wholly destroyed and no longer exist. The vast majority of the rest are still buried somewhere. And we also know that proto-writing can look like a lot of different things (e.g., knotted rope), so we might not even know it when we see it.
2026-03-10 17:05:47
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Joe :
uruk > iraq has blown my mind
2026-03-06 02:09:16
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quip011 :
And just because this is the earliest example we’ve found, it doesn’t mean it was the first. There could have been others, so far lost to time.
2026-03-06 04:09:58
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shell :
“Before we shook hands with the devil and invented whiteness” what a line
2026-03-06 13:23:36
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Ypu :
You(all the people of today) are GENEALOGICALLY related to everyone from 50k years ago. That means nobody has special claim to these grandmothers (not by virtue of geography or physical similarity)
2026-03-06 06:27:58
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David listensToPodcasts :
I take it as evidence that humans as a species have always been brilliant. Personally I doubt that IQ has changed much for tens of thousands of years. Humans 50,000 years ago probably had Aristotles, Platos, Einsteins and Tzus.
2026-03-06 02:45:19
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H.C. Playa :
30k years ago PREDATES the people that developed light skin and eventually settled in that region. Everyone was a shade of brown
2026-03-06 22:48:45
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neumondschatten :
Not only did we not invent whiteness as a concept at that point. THOSE PEOPLE WHERE NOT WHITE! White skin is younger than this proto writing
2026-03-06 12:59:01
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Zander :
my brain just latched onto "saddly." it's an adverb meaning "in a saddle-like fashion" and I refuse to be told otherwise. supperior, in turn, is a noun meaning "better dinner," and amaizing is an exclamation made when you see corn (a big lump with knobs). obviously.
2026-03-06 02:27:45
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Silverback🦍 :
Also 40 000 years ago white skin didn’t exist yet
2026-03-06 02:10:21
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derquatsch :
In addition to all your excellent points, those people were almost certainly not “white” anyway. They most likely had dark skin, as it’s estimated that Europeans only developed light skin some 5,000 or so years ago. So this is definitely not supportive of white supremacy.
2026-03-07 03:50:24
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Jupiter :
Generally, the idea of cultural continuity from today to the ancient and, in this case, prehistoric world, is a white supremacist myth in its own right.
2026-03-06 05:30:02
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Sparky :
just because the people lived in what is now Europe doesn't mean they look like modern day Europeans. humans were all dark not that long ago
2026-03-06 04:34:36
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James Norlien :
point of interest to add: the genetic code for melanin deficiency evolved in hominids at least 10k years AFTER that culture was likely extinct.
2026-03-06 15:04:07
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🔻Kekero (level 13 Wizard)🔻 :
Pre-Indo European cultures don’t really count as European ngl.
2026-03-06 04:01:08
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Squalidglobe :
You are so incredibly well spoken. Thank you for taking the time to address these comments and concerns in such a healthy way.
2026-03-06 02:53:16
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Lupulella :
Not to mention, protocuneiform developed into stuff still around today
2026-03-06 01:28:31
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RedbeardWV :
Yeah it always makes me sad when people see a new historical discovery and think it proves their biased instead of getting excited and seeing more questions to ask.
2026-03-06 02:02:18
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