@ivy_doll_too: Do you think the virtual fly brain copy is conscious? I don't. #wholebrainemulation #minduploading #humanconnectome #flywire they uploaded a fly into a computer Virtual fly brain Flywire ai Eon systems Pantheon Soma The amazing digitial circus Blackmirror Cyberpunk2077 Soulkiller Arasaka

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TitenSxull :

I think we have very different definitions of consciousness. I don't care if it can meaningfully continue learning or continue being a fly, if it experienced qualia it has consciousness. Now I have no idea whether this fly brain snapshot actually had qualia but I don't like your definition of consciousness. If someone has severe amnesia where they forget who they are and are born anew constantly they still have consciousness.

glorious.porpoise :

This is significantly less impressive than I originally thought

reed :

What’s Pomni doing there 🙏

inkpenavenger🇺🇦🍉 :

Hey! Who turned out the lights? ... Hey! Who turned out the lights? ... Hey! Who turned out the lights? ... Hey!..

paddlequack :

why is everybody trying their best to downplay how truly impressive this is?

rosechxrch :

I don’t know this is still really impressive to me. Even if they’re just instincts, they’re not approximating fly instincts, they computerized REAL fly instincts. That still seems like a pretty stark milestone to me.

LarHarHarrᖭི༏ᖫྀ :

So its only "conscious" at one instantaneous moment?

Solon :

Hair splitting. A snapshot of your mind that can experience thimgs would be considered conscious regardless if you were still able to learn something new or not

Aneurin :

seems like simulating even simple brains might take a lot of computing power

ᴘᴀᴛʀɪᴄɪᴀ 🩷 :

now THIS is AI. I knew it was basically code, but it's still really impressive imo

JB :

So a Brain GIF👌

dispelmagic :

So a really really early version of Soul Killer..?

rebecca :

consciousness and life can never be simulated because life is essentially material, organic, and relates to the real world, not to simulations 🥲 that's what plasticity is, ultimately, and open-ended (albeit constrained), non-deterministic, adaptive relating to reality.

Aly SugarSweets :

distortedmeatball :

"WE are cooked"

jasper :

manmade horrorless well within my comprehension :/

Notyoureadingmyusername :

Fly of theseus

kyle :

It’s just… coding, no?

Malachy :

The thing is though. Nobody actually knows what consciousness is empirically, there’s no “consciousness detector”. We can only measure the outputs, the behaviour of the mind. If the uploaded brain is behaviourally identical or a good enough approximation… then only epistemically consistent stance is to attribute it some level of consciousness (again whatever that may be). And yes, the neuronal dynamics are important… but isn’t this showing that even if you just have a static computational graph you can effectively get a good approximation of the behaviour. Suggesting that it’s not the most important thing?

humunculus :

SOMA IS SLOWLY BECOMING REAL, YEAAAAAH

Alejo will :

Yeah... For now

Suguru Geto🪲(but trans) :

We’re so close to braindances

Virsho :

makes me feek less dreadful over existence

Gjendem :

you're telling me that tiktokers just read the headline, and don't do more research on the topic they talk about???? whaaaaaaatt