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Mai ✨ :
Finished The Pullback Effect by Marcus Veyne last week and I am still shocked! My ex who said they needed space is now the one texting first. This book is dangerous
2026-03-31 14:44:49
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Dragon97 :
I read Man’s Search For Meaning in my early 30’s. It became my favorite book & I have used his theories in my life ever since. I used to give away copies to friends.
2026-04-12 03:41:54
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Joshua Yosen :
I think what drives a human being is actually basic and therefore boring: need. We have a need for play, which requires pleasure to fulfill. We have a need for autonomy which power is necessary to fulfill. We have a need for meaning and therefore must wrap our needs into a narrative to give our actions purpose. Otherwise there is no "self-driving engine". As Victor Franklin noticed, those that had meaning had a will to live. Even in the face of their other needs being horrendously torn away from them, particularly power/autonomy/pleasure, those that could create meaning had a reason to live. So is meaning the most important need? Perhaps 🤔 Certainly without it we have no other reason to meet our other needs except for pure instinct (ie we don't reason about breathing, our body automatically activates our body to meet that need for us)
2026-03-30 08:37:35
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elephantTumbling :
The deeper drives articulated by Freud make the most sense because power and meaning are pleasurable, but pleasure does not need to be meaningful or about power.
2026-03-28 19:03:59
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fieldstone studio :
But Lacan!!!!
2026-04-20 19:44:29
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user_693064676799 :
And what do you think drives you?
2026-03-28 19:24:46
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Tony Fitz :
Brilliant insights thank you
2026-03-28 18:55:25
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Raibard :
Frankl is an amazing thinker.
2026-05-07 12:33:35
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Jack :
what's your opinion on Carl Jung's work I'm curious?
2026-03-28 23:11:20
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Mohcine O. :
Insightful & well presented. How does this relate to Maslow's hierarchy of needs? it's as if each of those models maps to a layer in Maslow's pyramid.
2026-03-28 19:59:14
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Garydon Weaver :
Eloquently said 👏
2026-04-12 19:36:25
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JeffG04 :
Awareness.
2026-04-30 13:58:22
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elias :
are their ideas based on research and evidence?
2026-06-03 19:38:14
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alpbit :
Your content makes love to my brain 🧠
2026-05-11 22:56:09
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Martin :
And you are obviously being driven by exponential synapse growth 🤔😜🙏
2026-05-03 12:15:07
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Joe Hepple935 :
You ever heard of Edward Witten? His M-theory suggests everyone is looking at the same thing from different angles
2026-05-17 17:28:47
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Gabe C :
I really like the way she sets up her information 🤟
2026-04-09 14:39:27
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Vagos Omacs :
And Jung
2026-04-25 00:58:37
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new.england.knits :
Do you think Eric Fromm’s proposal of the meaning of life being love (I recently read “The Art of Loving”) fits into this mix? If anyone hasn’t read it, it’s worth the read for many reasons– the parts where he bashes Freud are so funny.
2026-04-28 15:10:25
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Brett108 :
Stoics explain it better “logos”
2026-03-31 19:22:29
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Thomas Simmons :
how aboit the love of existing
2026-04-28 06:25:04
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jeromy.rutter :
what I think is strange is why we think there is a universal human nature rather than natural scales reinforced by nurture. it's like saying all people are outgoing, and never introverted when most people fall somewhere in the middle or maybe lean to one side or the other, but hardly anyone is an extreme all the time. sometimes people can be altruistic. sometimes they can be selfish and greedy. circumstances, culture, necessity vs agency. any human nature that presupposes we never change is missing the forest for the trees. it becomes impossible to grow as a person if we have innate, unchangeable nature.
2026-04-18 10:38:51
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gilbertmorris185 :
Adler is correct: status is the most sustained motivator of human action in the history of humanity. Pleasure, desire etc. are byproducts of status-making. We must grasp the notion of ensconcement: the individual is individuated (Jung) but never individualised in the sense that individual live in a web of interdependencies. These interdependencies are game theoretic: prisoner’s dilemmas, multipolar traps, rival risks, power law distributions, in and out group dynamics. These are far more generative and occur long before humans know anything of themselves. We see this in the manipulative genius of children long before they can speak. Existential dynamics condition humans in this way. Freud’s thinking - to the extent that he is right, which isn’t often - is subsumed in Adler’s concepts. Viktor Frankel’s work means a lot to me as I read him at 12 years old. But Frankels notion is situation dependent. Living in deprivation and isolation, reduced to irreducibility, his life in the concentration camp lacked the distractions, attractions and assurances of quotidian life. It is most akin to living in a meditative state in a mountain retreat. Frankel’s own statement that people can endure enormous suffering explains already that the situation is not normal. However, I do think Frankel’s “Logotherapy” represents a training programme to deepen empathy and self-understanding.
2026-05-26 21:50:47
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meekznfgvds :
What drives the human being ultimately is desire.
2026-04-13 07:28:56
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