@philosophyminis: In Steven Spielberg's movie 'Minority Report', special police units arrest people for crimes they have not yet committed. And while the movie is set in 2054, we do not have to wait that long, because predictive policing is here. This is how it works. First, a police department will feed various crime data into an algorithm, incident reports, criminal demographics, and so on. The algorithm looks for patterns and generates predictions. It tells operators where a crime is likely to take place and even who is likely to commit it. In theory, this allows police to prevent crime before it happens — send officers to a certain area, increase surveillance on certain people, and you can reduce crime and protect the victim. But there are two problems with this, a philosophical one and a technological one. The technological problem is that this will almost always amplify existing biases. The data a police department feeds into their algorithm already has biases, and then overpolicing and overreporting data increases those biases further. The philosophical issue is that punishment has to be tied to choice. Aristotle argued that moral responsibility requires two things, you must know what you are doing, and you must choose to do it. But the so-called ‘pre-crime’ removes both of those. The person does not know they are going to commit a crime because they have not yet decided to do one. But punishment is not always about the wrongdoer. It is about society more broadly. And if it creates a safer and happier world, is predictive policing that wrong? If it is better for more people most of the time, should we punish people before they do something wrong?
Jonny Thomson
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Tuesday 14 April 2026 13:34:53 GMT
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Doug :
The film was based on Philip K Dick's The minority report, 1956 🫡
2026-04-14 13:53:32
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Julian Tonkin :
Person of Interest is real life now 😭
2026-04-14 15:05:49
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lauren :
The anime Psycho-Pass is a good show with this premise !!
2026-04-14 14:02:54
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George Marino :
Arresting people for a potential crime? No. Better police presence in a location of potential crime? Yes. Seems to me that the police being there might reduce the chance of anything happening, with no victim impacted.
2026-04-14 15:23:29
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Agneaustic :
Change "punish for" to "prevent from" and I'll sign.
2026-04-14 14:18:34
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zodie :
you can not punish somebody for a crime that they have not committed because the future is not certain
2026-04-14 18:47:48
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Slayjay :
Hi. Trump is pushing for this now….
2026-07-31 02:30:47
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Alex Hyena :
if it's just "hey the algorithm is saying this, lets add some security there" thats fine, but if it's actively arresting individuals before the crime has been committed then that would be unjust
2026-04-14 19:38:05
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Steve :
Astounded by how many commenters seem to miss the essential issue. Unless you can guarantee it is 100% accurate, it's a no.
2026-04-15 05:46:23
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Gambit :
is there a crime when no crime is committed?
2026-04-16 10:51:18
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Joe :
How about instead of misguided punishment, we try prevention?
2026-04-14 20:04:55
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JiggyCpasLesAutres :
If you give a red card to a player before the tackle is it benefic for the game ?
2026-04-14 14:11:53
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L🤍 :
So… basically the plot of moonknight
2026-04-14 16:57:12
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Seraph :
"Person of Interest"
2026-04-14 23:16:03
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Auriel :
dystopia policing the presumption of guilt to justify presumed faults. it also infringes on free will and the right to autonomy.
2026-04-14 15:19:38
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🇵🇷🏝Carol🏝🇵🇷 :
Very interesting and true…
2026-04-14 19:10:37
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Cj 🇦🇺 :
punishment is ridiculous concept
2026-04-16 03:12:03
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Arjuna Vijayanayagam 🇦🇺 :
What if we use this same thick to prioritise support services instead of over policing resulting in reducing the risk of crime proactively
2026-04-15 08:32:03
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STAR S7V7N7 :
so absurd.
2026-04-15 08:51:20
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MrMoore :
Lol.. we can apply the algorithm to players in a football match then so that injuries are avoided. From the start, just issue red cards and yellow cards and send players off so that we can have an injury- free match.
2026-04-14 19:46:44
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English Panda :
it will cut NHS costs but increase data centres and policing costs.
2026-04-14 22:31:59
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Textier Ștefan-Vasile Ioniță :
film from my ideas, agree with this discussion
2026-04-14 21:33:15
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Shax :
Is the argument for “predictive policing” purely utilitarian because the prospects of epistemically objectivity are vanishingly low?
2026-04-14 20:36:27
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jack :
When do you think you’ll have the first episode of the podcast out?
2026-04-14 13:57:07
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SirJulias :
can they predict when I will be rich?
2026-04-18 15:36:53
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