@platoforgirls: Why does Odysseus get to go home but Achilles can’t, in order to attain glory or KLEOS as it’s called in Ancient Greek? #LearnOnTikTok #TikTokLearningCampaign #greekmythology

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dstvic
Dennis San Vicent433 :
It's originally a Mycaenan oral story of a war survivor's guilt. not his glory
2026-07-24 14:13:52
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photoscure
Hector Leon :
The addiction to the idea of being remembered…
2026-05-03 14:39:17
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sometimespuzzling
SometimesPuzzling :
I love the Oresteia! Please talk about Agamemnon v Odysseus if you’re interested. It almost feels worth learning Greek to read it more thoroughly.
2026-04-17 01:03:14
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jmo433
Justin Morton :
Odysseus’s learned he was him
2026-05-04 01:28:53
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.rustyshackleford
Falcy :
The point: The friends we made along the way
2026-04-17 13:10:17
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chaseing.strength
Pedro :
I built this fyp brick by brick
2026-04-19 00:18:19
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peregrins
Peregrin Took :
Homeric Rage Bait
2026-04-16 21:38:19
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arieleve523
Ariel :
So does Menelaus get Kleos for returning successfully to Sparta with Helen, or is he forever shamed for losing Helen in the first place?
2026-04-16 21:52:11
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steelneena
SteelNeena :
I couldn’t get past the fact that it took like 12 years to do 500 nautical miles.
2026-04-17 01:31:44
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raymondraymondn
Raymond raymondn :
Kleos is about what people will say about you after you die. May be related or come from dieing in battle, but may come from many many other things.
2026-04-21 01:46:27
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ejjogg
Ejjog 🇬🇧 :
Bronze Age psychology is odd.
2026-04-19 21:38:56
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hamkyo2
Hamky0 :
Modern analysis vs Old Greek original philosophy
2026-04-17 08:23:47
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thesmallatreus
thesmallatreus :
Sarpedon’s speech about what it means to be a hero in the beginning of the Iliad is one of my favorite snippets of writing
2026-04-28 01:11:35
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thedevonteran
Devon Teran :
Very much enjoying the excellent Homeric poetry analysis lately. 10/10
2026-04-16 22:59:13
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zenaibuu
✨ Zenaibu :
oh i built this fyp brick by brick
2026-04-20 05:34:49
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creationcrustacean
CreationCrustacean :
THANK YOU, people were talking about Odysseus not learning anything on his journey and I was like bro that’s NOT the point 😭
2026-05-10 07:41:38
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moonstearsoverbeers
Moons ☆ :
I love the exploration of the importance of the oikos and nostos in the Odyssey!! It shows how important it is alongside kleos from battle
2026-04-17 00:41:14
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mishamishapp
Mishamishapp :
Like!
2026-04-17 07:11:04
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boogerscotch
Boogerscotch :
Why has it been so long since I’ve seen a post from you?? TikTok is F’ing up
2026-04-17 02:29:42
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vampaboo
✨Jupiter/Tav✨ :
Homer wrote about thighs in great detail…I think it was for the thighs of soldiers (I’m kidding)
2026-05-19 18:44:48
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sifutheo
Sifu Theodore :
kleos means Glory, it has nothing to do with dying young.
2026-05-19 06:19:36
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ckontrayt
cKontra :
Great explanation.
2026-05-19 05:36:20
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doublemint176
Doublemint :
Achilles later regrets his choice of fame over a long life telling Odysseus ,better the lowest helot alive than the greatest warrior in hades
2026-05-19 09:58:57
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gremlinii
gremlinii :
I understood the two are both about immortality immortality by fame(achiles) or by godhood (calypso), or by legacy (odyssey)
2026-05-20 16:49:19
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revcobb
David Cobb :
I love your thoughts and questions about these epics. I wonder what you make of the idea that Odysseus may also represent those who never really fully return home from war, who have experienced not just trauma, but moral injury.
2026-04-17 00:34:56
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