@platoforgirls: Why does Odysseus get to go home but Achilles can’t, in order to attain glory or KLEOS as it’s called in Ancient Greek? #LearnOnTikTok #TikTokLearningCampaign #greekmythology
It's originally a Mycaenan oral story of a war survivor's guilt. not his glory
2026-07-24 14:13:52
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Hector Leon :
The addiction to the idea of being remembered…
2026-05-03 14:39:17
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SometimesPuzzling :
I love the Oresteia! Please talk about Agamemnon v Odysseus if you’re interested. It almost feels worth learning Greek to read it more thoroughly.
2026-04-17 01:03:14
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Justin Morton :
Odysseus’s learned he was him
2026-05-04 01:28:53
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Falcy :
The point: The friends we made along the way
2026-04-17 13:10:17
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Pedro :
I built this fyp brick by brick
2026-04-19 00:18:19
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Peregrin Took :
Homeric Rage Bait
2026-04-16 21:38:19
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Ariel :
So does Menelaus get Kleos for returning successfully to Sparta with Helen, or is he forever shamed for losing Helen in the first place?
2026-04-16 21:52:11
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SteelNeena :
I couldn’t get past the fact that it took like 12 years to do 500 nautical miles.
2026-04-17 01:31:44
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Raymond raymondn :
Kleos is about what people will say about you after you die. May be related or come from dieing in battle, but may come from many many other things.
2026-04-21 01:46:27
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Ejjog 🇬🇧 :
Bronze Age psychology is odd.
2026-04-19 21:38:56
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Hamky0 :
Modern analysis vs Old Greek original philosophy
2026-04-17 08:23:47
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thesmallatreus :
Sarpedon’s speech about what it means to be a hero in the beginning of the Iliad is one of my favorite snippets of writing
2026-04-28 01:11:35
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Devon Teran :
Very much enjoying the excellent Homeric poetry analysis lately. 10/10
2026-04-16 22:59:13
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✨ Zenaibu :
oh i built this fyp brick by brick
2026-04-20 05:34:49
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CreationCrustacean :
THANK YOU, people were talking about Odysseus not learning anything on his journey and I was like bro that’s NOT the point 😭
2026-05-10 07:41:38
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Moons ☆ :
I love the exploration of the importance of the oikos and nostos in the Odyssey!! It shows how important it is alongside kleos from battle
2026-04-17 00:41:14
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Mishamishapp :
Like!
2026-04-17 07:11:04
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Boogerscotch :
Why has it been so long since I’ve seen a post from you?? TikTok is F’ing up
2026-04-17 02:29:42
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✨Jupiter/Tav✨ :
Homer wrote about thighs in great detail…I think it was for the thighs of soldiers (I’m kidding)
2026-05-19 18:44:48
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Sifu Theodore :
kleos means Glory, it has nothing to do with dying young.
2026-05-19 06:19:36
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cKontra :
Great explanation.
2026-05-19 05:36:20
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Doublemint :
Achilles later regrets his choice of fame over a long life telling Odysseus ,better the lowest helot alive than the greatest warrior in hades
2026-05-19 09:58:57
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gremlinii :
I understood the two are both about immortality
immortality by fame(achiles) or by godhood (calypso), or by legacy (odyssey)
2026-05-20 16:49:19
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David Cobb :
I love your thoughts and questions about these epics. I wonder what you make of the idea that Odysseus may also represent those who never really fully return home from war, who have experienced not just trauma, but moral injury.
2026-04-17 00:34:56
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