@jon.cohen.unconvinced: If forgiveness requires violence and death first…what exactly are we calling ‘love’? #atheism #religiondebate #criticalthinking #christianity #philosophy

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okwudiliogbozor
okwudiliogbozor :
why didn't he remain dead his story is just like a performance
2026-05-18 10:08:20
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thumbomenon
thumbomenon :
Why can’t I like this a billion times???
2026-04-25 13:01:45
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kacey2020gh
kacey2020gh :
if you can have something back immediately you loose it, it's never a sacrifice... esp knowing fully well you'll get it back. COMMON SENSE
2026-05-08 20:09:27
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chrislanglois16
chrislanglois16 :
Jesus died and got promoted to savior and has the choice of who goes to heaven of hell. What a sacrifice right?
2026-08-11 18:25:07
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user393492816
no thank you :
Thanks for what you do
2026-04-23 06:13:23
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dolly.baby59
Dolly Baby :
Beautiful response
2026-06-26 00:03:21
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user41139207603
user41139207603 :
Cheers bro.. Thankyou
2026-04-23 01:25:08
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nyttiktok
Nyt :
I have thought about this too. It's heavy.
2026-04-25 01:54:31
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duke21113
Duke :
my guy is cookin in here!!!
2026-04-26 19:40:14
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jezza79
JEC :
you're so brilliant in your wording. "Common Sense"!!! Just love it
2026-04-25 13:59:24
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hattah89
Hattah :
wages of sin is death yet the father of sin is still alive 😂
2026-07-16 13:15:22
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zeux__jb
JB. :
2026-05-18 20:59:12
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andregcxytc
andregcxytc :
Thank you 👏👏👏
2026-04-23 01:22:31
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beachwearinlagos
beachwearinlagos :
2026-06-19 04:56:35
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breezestar81
Breestar# :
i love you knowledge
2026-05-12 09:04:48
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_crazygadgetsug
Crazy Gadgets UG :
2026-06-19 11:15:29
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dxcmodels
DXC Models | Lagos :
Ahhhhhhh 😳
2026-05-19 15:39:24
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justanewf1977
Justanewf :
We are to require to forgive people without shedding blood so why couldn’t God do that?
2026-04-23 21:31:08
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tw21qwctt
TeeDub :
I listened to this entire call. I don't think the guest even fathomed the point you were making. Sad.
2026-04-22 19:49:49
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tobyhuff706
BakugoneTooFar💥 :
they dont seem to understand that in the world we live in, in the reality we live in. its not logical that god is both all powerful and all good simultaneously.
2026-04-22 19:26:52
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destroymyaccount
ElizaMyth :
theobabel is exactly the term oh my goodness i’ve been wanting to call it something
2026-04-27 01:12:51
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pamela30255
Pamela :
Unconditional love..that’s not what demonstrated in religion.
2026-04-22 20:07:07
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justsomeguy123456789
Just Some-Guy 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 :
Jesus didn’t die for my sins. Let’s just say he did rise again three days later. That’s not death. That’s just a really, really shitty long weekend.
2026-04-22 21:40:22
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x.y.zv
xyz :
The sacrifice of Jesus was not just a symbolic gesture; it was a precise legal and spiritual necessity. To break the curse brought upon humanity by Adam and Eve, Jesus had to live a flawless, sinless life as a man, remaining obedient all the way to His death. Because Adam—a perfect man—failed, it required a perfect man to undo the damage. Through this divine exchange, Jesus’ perfection is imputed to us: Because Jesus (as man) = Perfect, then we (in Christ) = Justified and Made Perfect. Silencing the Accuser Furthermore, this exact legal standard was necessary to uphold God’s justice against the accusations of the devil. If God had simply forgiven humanity without a just penalty being paid, Satan could have rightfully claimed that God’s judgment was unfair. The enemy would argue that because humans sinned just as he did, they deserved the same condemnation. By fulfilling the law perfectly, Jesus stripped the devil of any legal right to claim humanity's soul. The Weight of the Sacrifice This was by no means an easy or detached decision for God. Sending Jesus involved real divine grief and profound sorrow. God could have easily sent a powerful angel to intervene, but an angel's life could never match the value of human soul, nor could a created being bear the weight of the world's sins. For true justice and redemption to meet, it required God Himself to make the ultimate sacrifice.
2026-06-13 11:35:42
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