@jordxn.simone: Yall defense of Julie is getting scary #shawnathemom #toxic #relationships #tiktokskit

N :

This. I feel bad for Julie in the sense that she thought they were on the same page. She deserved clearer communication from Ty. It’s not clean cut enough to say he forced this life on her, but it’s clear IMO that things are closer to the life he wants than the one she does. THAT SAID Julie has never given Ty the opportunity to discuss or consider changing priorities. And she’s just straight up mean most of the time, to so many people. I honestly hope that she goes off and lives in New York, like she always wanted, and becomes happier. Maybe that will make her nicer, though it won’t excuse her behavior. But at least she’ll (hopefully) stop harming people so much.

themayflower :

I feel like both are valid. Ty has every right to change his mind about what he wants. Julie has every right to be upset that he no longer wants what they talked about or what she wants. Both things can be true. The way she talks to him isn’t ok and looking down at others that don’t want what you do isn’t ok. But both of them feeling the way they do is valid.

Kisha :

Thank you!!!! I was so lost with people poo pooing Ty huh?! I’m glad I’m not the only one!!!!

salmon.feathers :

unrelated your hair is immaculate

Nici :

They both grew differently as they grew up and realized they had different goals and priorities. Instead of admitting it they burried it.

Holly 💀 :

This is THE take

sundaynudes :

im in the middle, I see both sides. This situation is complexed, the characters have gotten more complexed especially with their previous scenes being side story interactions. the past 8 episodes were completely centered on their life, it was the deep dive we have been begging for and idk how you can watch that and not see both sides of the situation, especially with Shawna and her husband involving themselves in their relationship leading up to that 8 episode life story which was beautiful btw but you could see the road this was heading down. You cant tell me that if Julie was a real person in today's time and she came onto the internet and made a video about alla this yall wouldn't tell her to divorce her husband. This is not me condoning her behavior nor am I condoning ty's, he purposely put off having that difficult conversation with Julie because he knew what the consequences would be so he kept putting it off until he felt like she was in a position where she wouldn't leave him. A lot of you are forgetting the snapping that ty did towards Julie especially when she submitted a chapter of his book to a publisher to literally help him because this was something they discussed prior. I dont understand why ppl are upset that Julie is so anal about her life plan as well, we support the women who stuck to their life goals and got what they wanted whether family or career but for some reason we are reprimanding and criticizing Julie for wanting the exact same thing. Not to mention the first chapter was great, the publisher literally signed him on, he had deadlines he was actively avoiding and using the kids as a front to why he couldn't. In the same breath this is not me trying to diminish his efforts in raising their children and maintaining a household but we aren't going to pretend it wasn't an excuse. They discussed daycare and it seemed like constantly Ty was back and forth about the idea because ultimately he needed the kids to be home as his excuse to not write the book.

J.D._Brubaker | Author :

All. Of. This. Every single word of this. Yes.

Les :

Thank you!! It’s making me crazy.

Jess :

Woah i was on Julie’s side and you actually just completely reversed me, you are so right!

Jenna 🪩 :

user2632149167927 :

I think where I’m on Julie’s side is that Ty unilaterally decided to come to him SAHP. That’s should be a decision that both parties make. I would be a bit upset and feel used too.

aliballie :

Your correct take is once again appreciated 👏

lairaklock :

In this scenario, did I also misrepresent what I wanted from my life in order to get together with my husband, knowing he has very specific goals for his life? Then, when the time came for me to deliver, I instead try to move the goalpost towards something he never wanted?

Devilwoman :

As most parent know, once kids start happening, our priorities change. For Ty, he embraced being a dad. He loves being part of their everyday life. For him, they became more important than writing. And because of Ty taking on the role of primary caregivers, her priorities never changed. She does care about them, but they aren't her priority like they are for Ty.

liz 💞 :

I KNEW I WASNT CRAZY THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

Z_the_Seedling_25yo :

THANK YOU!!! Thank. You.

Weshie :

SAY IT LOUDER 👏👏👏

Ananda Snyder :

oh dang. well thank you for that perspective, I hadn't thought about it that way and you are absolutely right!

Corrine :

This. So much this.

Kacey Strong836 :

Thank you! I felt crazy from all the other takes.

DJ depression 🇱🇻 :

they just didn't have any kind of productive communication

alexandraobenhaus :

Thank you!!!

sabrina|exhausted :

Spot on!!

Mike :

This is why you check in as a couple.. when making big moves ( school, career, kids, etc) if opinions are changing you’re allowed to feel what you feel. As long as you clearly communicate it with your partner and your partner understands. Can it change back to the original plan…? Absolutely but you still have to respect someone’s feelings and space. It also matters to have a supportive partner because if you can’t say the hard things then how are you supposed to grow with them. Julie and Ty are both in the wrong but it’s because neither one of them wanted to have the hard conversation where the quiet part is said out loud.