@evidencebasedkate: Teachers and parents: Does your school or your kids school do any of these? Letting students fail is especially controversial these days… #educationsystem #teacher
Imagine if standardized tests would show the wrong answers immediately and teachers got that information immediately, and could then help teach those mistakes in the next few weeks so they learn that information??? Yea but no we can’t have that.
2026-04-25 19:44:12
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Evidence Based Kate :
I just saw the other day that a school raised its grade floor to a 70% no one’s allowed to get less than a 70 on anything 😱
2026-04-25 12:12:58
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anyho_idc :
Failure also produces grit and perseverance
2026-04-25 14:11:24
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K Thx Bye :
So I tried #3 in my class this year. Students copied the notes the night before, or read a summarized the passage the night before. In class we went over the material in groups. We clarified concepts, answered questions, drew diagrams etc. I had to switch because only about 1/4 of my students would do the pre-loading of material, and I was accused of not teaching. So now I stand at the front and “lecture.” I hate it, but here we are.
2026-04-25 22:19:05
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⭐️Certified Good Noodle⭐️ :
I will definitely get some pushback for this one, but I believe the third one should only start happening in fifth grade and beyond. Kids aren’t academically ready to be leading their own learning in core material before that.
2026-04-25 16:37:25
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acurioushiker :
I’d 100% rather kids fail in a controlled environment like school than out in the world.
2026-04-25 14:37:04
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nahearga :
My kids won’t stay on topic if I let them talk/work in groups
2026-04-26 08:43:13
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Haider :
disagree with last point. Research shows the opposite. Rest agree with
2026-04-26 05:12:01
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𝑀🪺✰⋆☄︎ :
For #3 : I always absolutely hateedddd any class that functioned like that as a student. It feels unclear/muddled, and I’d rather have explicit instruction from the expert in the room
2026-04-26 02:17:49
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Cooper_Donald :
Surely number 3 isn’t diminishing the value of explicit instruction.
2026-04-26 13:19:14
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monicanne2 :
One of my teaching mottos is “You don’t know what you don’t know, until you don’t know it.”
2026-04-26 12:49:25
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CJD0709 :
I’ll never forget in high school when we did pre tests and failed then were I given the ability to study and try again. I always did better on the final test in classes that did this
2026-04-25 21:43:00
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vixvixvixvixvixvixvix :
Discovery learning is difficult to do well with a whole class. How do you guarantee that all students have 'discovered' the content correctly? And if you find out they haven't, you need to go back and correct those misunderstandings. But the alternative "teacher led" is not simply teacher doing all the talking. You need to teach the thing explicitly, then let them practice/apply
2026-04-27 06:37:54
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MJGRIC :
I agree with all of this. In Montessori teachers are encouraged not to praise children. The main reason is because children should be proud of the work that they do and not look for praise from others or from adults. When praise is given, it should be given in a way that encourages students to learn, achieve and develop that sense of accomplishment from within first. So they are not looking from approval from others when they accomplish something.
2026-04-28 23:12:23
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Neat-O Comics! :
I agree with everything, but the second one. I think you also have to take into the account the communities you’re serving as well, because that praise could help to combat stereotypes and negative thinking students have about themselves.
2026-04-26 16:19:58
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sam :
YES I stopped saying “good job” to my students, I say you should be proud of yourself and my students are SO intrisically motivated. They feel good about themselves BECAUSE they do good! I agree 100% love these points made!
2026-04-26 23:59:55
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No :
There are some heavy context dependent caveats on number three though.
2026-04-25 14:54:10
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Sarena Griffin :
Adding to the failure is opportunities for retest
2026-04-26 19:00:19
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Mommymean :
Many teachers say that their students won’t talk/engage in academic talk and default back to teacher talk.
2026-04-25 15:31:41
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Leslie | Chicago Single Mom :
So true!!!! I wish parents understood this too!!!!
2026-04-25 12:35:53
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J_$9939 :
I went to a PD once and the speaker was going on about not praising students when they're in their comfort zone, but rather using it when they're struggling but working through it
2026-04-25 20:49:46
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lizardmanth :
As an art teacher, I hate “you’re so talented” because it takes away the concept that student has any control on development of that skill. Artistic skills are the result of time and practice, not something they’re born knowing.
2026-04-27 00:40:56
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Katrina Mediodia :
Pls put in our parents’ fyp instead
2026-06-18 12:22:14
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Cari | StrongTeacherTeams :
#3 YES!! The book Never Work Harder than Your Students gets at this too.
2026-06-02 16:36:34
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Miss Teacher Mom 👩🏼🏫👩 :
I believe it!!!
2026-06-15 16:53:14
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