@kirarifutari1414: alot of hadiths are taken from different cultures and philosophies to fit in or seem extravagant and traditionalists use fear mongering to guilt you into accepting each hadith blindly, st0ning is not islamic but wahabbis have tried to justify 3xtr3mism being more pious #muslim #niche #pakistani #quran #islamic_media

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jrredditz
esk1mona :
exactly, in the quran Allah also tells the prophet peace be upon him that among him were hypocrites, and that the prophet would not know who they are but Allah says this is At-Tawbah 9:101, now does it feel like a coincident when a jewish law ends up in a hadith that is verified to be "authentic". Allah promises to preserve the quran, He does not say the same for hadith, Allah is very clear throughout the Quran to go back to his revalations, and prioritize the words of Allah for guidance, why are we relying on hadihs compiled and graded by men years later the prophets passing, you can use the argument that the hadiths were written down and practiced orally during the time of the prophet, but this brings me back to my first point at the top of my paragraph.
2026-08-04 13:01:03
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_went.missing_
REO FANS MOOT UP :
finally. I was so shocked at finding this out.
2026-07-30 08:54:01
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winxsecretdiary
royalefairy🫧 :
I love you
2026-06-01 11:11:11
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user261386955
John :
Reading through these comments gives me an aneurism, I’ve only recently been introduced to this point of view so I’m still learning abt it and currently take into account Hadith, however, I see her making a point and I enjoy that to learn abt it, but instead of fair arguments all I read here r insults and bad arguments besides a few people. So let me say, to be kaffir you must associate partners with Allah or deny his Qur’an, she has preached to follow both. If you think she’s left out valuable information then say so. There’s NO RIGHT to call someone kaffir, jahil or any other name especially considering that you’re not helping. If the prophet ﷺ had decided her view was wrong, he’d advise her carefully, with kindness and well thought points and evidence. But let’s say she’s wrong, u saying “Wallahi ur a kaffir” doesn’t help and ur pushing her away from what u believe is correct. So let’s keep it fair, kind and informative rather than foolish arguments
2026-05-10 21:12:31
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jibrill.1948
𓂆 :
Actually, this Hadith was just to scare people so people dont commit the sin, secondly Allah is so merciful that to do what it says in the Hadith you need I belive 4 witnesses who are perfect Muslims who seen the couple commit the sins so basically it’s impossible to just stone the man or women, this comes from the mercy of Allah
2026-05-11 02:27:58
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abagofdorito
mo. :
so i dont get what the context here is ngl
2026-05-10 16:56:29
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user261386955
John :
I mean no disrespect to u or anyone else when I say this, but I feel more people would disagree with u if u wore hijab
2026-05-10 17:09:03
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azaanrabbani
Pacifist :
do you have ever read any books of Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl?
2026-05-12 06:44:47
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pakipilled
Atoustic :
uhh ok? how'd u get that conclusion from that alone
2026-05-18 02:10:20
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luhprezzy69
luhprezzy :
fear Allah, Sahih Muslim 1693 and Sahih al-Bukhari 1329 alone debunks your claim, do not speak of what you have no knowledge of sister, may Allah guide us all
2026-05-10 17:21:55
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atharcel
larp :
Stop speaking about religions whilst being in compound ignorance
2026-05-11 07:00:21
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chrishorez
Chris Horez :
The conditions for stoning is so extreme that it’s nearly impossible to be convicted. But the punishment exists as a deterrent. That verse does not disprove the notion of stoning for adultery because it’s a debt that the women owes to the man that’s not cancelled with death. In Islam your debts carry on in the afterlife and so even if the women is stoned the man would still be owed the dowry for which case either the money comes from her wealth/estate or if she has none the family might choose to pay it off so there is no debt remaining. Adultery is a horrible sin and that’s emphasized in Islam, it’s a destroyer of families only polytheism and murder are worse, for it to have no punishment at all makes no sense.
2026-05-10 21:13:55
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nizsde
certified hater :
I’ve been saying this for years. My mother who is a very devoted Muslim woman doesn’t believe in every Hadiths, and when I told her why she said « because we don’t know who wrote them », Hadiths aren’t sacred words of the Lord, they’re written by humans we don’t even know by who, we should really wake up and realize how most Hadiths contradict the Qur’an and are fabricated
2026-05-11 07:13:30
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kabobmaxxing
. :
your argument has multiple separate problems. on “it’s only in hadith not the Quran”, the sunnah is divine revelation. Allah ﷻ says “He does not speak from his own desire, it is nothing but revelation revealed” (53:3-4) and “Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it” (59:7). the Quran doesn’t contain the exact detailed mechanics of how to pray, the exact amounts of zakah, or dozens of other obligations either, we take all of these from hadith. if you reject rajm because it’s “only in hadith” you have to apply that standard consistently and your entire religion collapses. you don’t get to selectively accept hadith for things you’re comfortable with and reject them for things you’re not. on the hadith being unreliable, this is factually wrong. the narrations on rajm aren’t isolated reports. The Musannaf of Abd al-Razzaq alone lists 70 hadith reports of rajm linked to the Prophet ﷺ and 100 from his Companions. it’s reported in Sahih al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, and the Sunan collections through multiple independent chains. Umar ibn al-Khattab رضي الله عنه explicitly warned about this exact situation from the minbar of the Prophet ﷺ: “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say ‘we do not find the verse of rajm in the Holy Book’ and consequently they may go astray.” he said this 1400 years ago and here we are. regarding “it was stolen from Jewish scriptures”, this proves the opposite of what you think. the Prophet ﷺ applied it to a Jewish couple because their own scripture commanded it and their rabbis were hiding the ruling out of leniency, and this is in Sahih al-Bukhari. shared rulings between divine scriptures confirm divine origin, not borrowing. on the verse from al-Nisa 4:19, that verse is about inheritance of women and treatment of wives, mentioning adultery only as a condition for rulings around divorce and dowry. it isn’t legislation for the punishment of adultery at all and using it as a contradiction shows a complete misreading of what the verse is talking about
2026-05-13 20:41:32
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boogabooga48
BustaRhymes :
Doesnt matter where its from, but only muslims enforce it nowadays while other religions have progressed. Why do you always want to be the most backward group?
2026-05-11 08:43:04
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igiatntbao
igiatntbao :
I think you’re mixing two different cases. One is about marital conduct and divorce and the other is legal punishment for a crime. Sure it’s both adultery the same sin but it’s not the same case it’s 2 different things the Hadith doesn’t truly contradict Quran, if it did it would be rejected. And to say that this practise was just stolen from Jewish scripture is lowk crazy people can say that about a lot of our laws and practises. It’s not copying its God giving us a law that he previously gave to the Jews. The big debate amongst classical scholars wasn’t whether the punishment exists in Islam or not, the debate was how and when the punishment should be applied (u mentioned it in a comment so I responded here). It’s widely accepted that the punishment is a real thing it’s the dominant position and it’s generally agreed upon across the 4 madhabs. it doesn’t get much more solid than that. love ur vids btw i js disagree with this one sis 🫰
2026-05-25 12:27:40
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bfksjwnedidnenskakdn
bfksjwnedidnenskakdn :
Read seyfeddin Kara’s book about this, there was 🪨 for adultery but it was a compromise to Jewish tribes and the prophet did legislate it but as a lawgiver not as a prophet
2026-05-11 09:33:40
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nocomment_137
ALi :
That doesnt go against stoning, and stoning doesnt happen straight cuz u need wittnesses and court, if she found guilty then she gives back and then they stone her. And yes in the book there are verses about killing too like in self defence but you said there is no mention in complete book of taking life? And the jewish scripture, as a muslim you must believe in the Torah that Moses recieved and the Torah is the Law which have stoning etc
2026-05-11 14:06:13
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14zhr
❄️ :
Based on my understanding, the verse is talking about the Husband and Wife specifically, as a personal issue between the two and what the husband can do if the wife commits adultery (which is treat her unwell/annoy her to make her do Khulu, thus getting a part if not her entire dowry), secondly the Hadeeth you’ve mentioned about stoning is what I assume is referring to Sunan Abu Dawood 4440, where the woman committed adultery while being married and got pregnant, personally I advice you read the entire hadeeth, because the stoning isn’t out of hatred for women but as a form of repentance as the prophet also prayed for her funeral (Janazah) and also specifically said “repented” which hints us that it’s more a form of repentance rather than just straight up punishment.
2026-05-28 08:43:50
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