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Gamma Alpha Pi :
Nietzsche and Jung aren't disagreeing, they're describing the same climb. Jung assumes you'll do something with what you find in the shadow. The upward movement is a foregone conclusion for him. He's the therapist, he trusts the process. Nietzsche doesn't make this assumption. Zarathustra is the manual Jung never wrote because Jung assumed you'd figure out the "now what" yourself. Same mountain. Jung maps the valley. Nietzsche points at the summit. The shadow integration *is* the death of the last man. Becoming *is* the Übermensch. Neither is actually new but, a restatments of the conclusions of wisdom traditions from time immemorial. We continue to struggle understand, synthesize and articulate these evolutions and truths.
2026-05-12 17:18:24
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Moon :
Nietzsche needs to be compassion to himself Team Jung here 💪
2026-05-19 01:43:22
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miguel alejandro :
i like neitzsche’s philosophy, now that you put it that way. i’ve never really looked into him, only jung, but now i will. 👌
2026-06-13 03:46:29
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Michelle & Folie à deux :
Jung wins tho
2026-05-12 17:45:46
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丂UP尺モ爪モ :
Her level of dissecting and understanding is what I think I have, I need to sit up.
2026-05-12 20:04:27
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Hermilo Valdovinos :
so one wants to know the unconscious and the other wants to dance with it .
2026-05-12 17:15:30
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Bas :
I agree more with Friedrich Nietzsche, as I’ve always applied to become a police officer. I’ve failed a few times, but it’s never made me give up, and I know that one day I’ll get there.
2026-05-13 02:30:09
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Elaine Drako🧿🇭🇰🇬🇧🇯🇵🐉 :
I see it a bit differently. Nietzsche and Jung aren’t really a progression line. Nietzsche explores the collapse and reconstruction of meaning, while Jung focuses on integration and wholeness after inner fragmentation. Turning it into “who is higher” misses the depth of both.
2026-05-17 09:39:14
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Eric Emerson :
You are absolutely correct: Nietzsche takes it a step further from Jung. The same exact resilience skills required to integrate the parts may be used to promote those parts to positions of power.
2026-05-13 02:06:40
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Daylen Oosthuizen680 :
Thank you for this. I’ve created a thread with the following frame work in AI to see how I can improve my life. “This chat is to help me improve my life Use Nietzsche and Jung Each to give me guidance on the problems or life experiences I share in this thread”
2026-06-07 21:54:52
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Chukalenko77 :
Id say they have the same ambition in this respect. And it makes sense because Jung was inspired by Nietzsches thought. Jungs view on integration is also not a surrender to the shadow but more so compromise between the conscious and unconscious self, so its kind of working like the desire for creative qualia you say nietzsche has
2026-05-13 18:41:23
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Johan Belhumeur :
Check out Arendt. I think you’d like her philosophical contribution. Between past and future is a great place to start.
2026-05-13 03:22:14
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z.bees :
You explained Jung in a very simplistic way, look at Jung’s lectures on thus spoke Zarathustra
2026-05-26 15:41:47
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Coach Fitzgerald :
They’re not disagreeing and they’re not in conflict with each other because they’re different levels of abstraction. 😌
2026-05-13 03:52:46
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andrewdylanjones :
Commenting to stay on this side of tiktok
2026-05-18 00:04:54
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Solé :
Jung is the foundation and Nietzsche is the next steps.
2026-05-13 14:55:27
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L'Avatar :
They both mean the same thing
2026-05-14 23:44:03
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russellfh99 :
always worth listening to 👍
2026-05-13 11:37:26
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kristina :
caption 😂😂
2026-06-04 01:54:31
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THSEUSNA :
Stories
2026-05-12 22:12:05
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Viking665 :
Both are implicitly saying "claim it, aim it and tame it" about the shadow. Ownership of the shadow equals empowerment in both thought systems. Jung is not telling the human to sit passively in "acceptance", but to take ownership, and on a bodily and mental level that is the essence of empowerment.
2026-06-11 07:27:41
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Fredomia 🇸🇻⚡️ :
people pronounce it like yoon?
2026-05-12 23:39:02
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Joshua :
I just love that we are talking about this stuff! I try to talk about this stuff with my friends and they just try to make fun of me for it! 🙄 ps what’s you break down on the uberman? I find with my work in healing people I use some of his work, 🙏
2026-05-12 19:00:24
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Kat Williams :
Is he your who you relate to most
2026-05-13 06:52:59
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MandyMae :
It’s the same
2026-05-13 00:34:52
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