Salina 🌿 Catholic Feminist
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AutumnFauv :
What is the atonement theory that Catholics believe then? I’m a new Catholic I’m still working things out but I’m so glad to be here and keep learning ❤️
2026-05-17 01:17:23
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BeckyIsHere :
I’m a pastor, and at my last church, the music team changed those words to “The arms of God were open wide.”
2026-05-31 11:12:04
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Justin Rose :
I’m grateful that my church (pastored by a very thoughtful biblical studies scholar and theologian) uses the alternative bridge lyrics “the love of God was glorified” as opposed the original satisfaction of wrath line. Thanks for doing this public theology in such a clear and compelling way.
2026-05-18 21:25:16
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Binki :
It's somewhat astonishing to me how much work it took for me to see the blatant contradiction it poses to the notion of God as love. I had to spend a considerable amount of time thinking this through before I realized it, and honestly I don't think I would've completed the process without TikTok and David Bentley Hart's books
2026-07-15 10:14:14
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Jon :
Correct. Penal Substitution Atonement is heretical nonsense and it splits the Trinity.
2026-05-21 16:05:02
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amina 🐇 :
That line has irked me for years😭 thank you for this
2026-08-03 02:03:35
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eliza ⭐️ :
mmmm I really love that hymn, and I never gave too much thought to that verse. Thank you for your analysis!! 💕
2026-05-19 20:52:15
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Britt Martin :
We sing "love overwhelmed like a tide"
2026-06-19 02:57:09
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aunt_kylie :
as a recent convert to catholicism from an evangelical denomination, this blew my mind! thank you for sharing
2026-05-17 19:50:35
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Alva Jean ⋆࣪ ˚｡♡ :
would absolutely LOVE to hear more about this as a new Christian, because this is exactly part of the reason it took me so long to come to Christ
2026-06-19 19:31:08
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Mel Moses :
As someone with my mom as a Methodist bishop, dad as an Anglican bishop and having gone to a catholic school, I really enjoy your tiktoks and explanations 🥰
2026-05-18 00:30:25
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Peas_Carrots :
I used to think that song was an absolute banger.
2026-05-16 22:07:03
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TA✝️🇵🇸 :
What is the most common atonement theory in Catholicism? Also is this just in evangelical protestantism or is penal substitution also a thing in mainline protestantism?
2026-05-17 23:06:33
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Unlearn and relearn with Nav :
Thanks very much Salina. This is eye opening
2026-05-16 19:34:51
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E Gooderl :
I’m hooked
2026-05-23 15:40:23
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Wildyetworthy✝️ :
Yes sister!! 🥰
2026-05-21 04:36:09
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Logic Zord :
lol that used to be my favorite song
2026-07-09 16:03:25
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Elizabeth Larson-DiP :
I just asked Claude to rewrite the gym with Christus victor theology and it’s pretty great! 🥰
2026-05-17 01:10:06
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🌙李朝岚 :
This explains why that verse never sat well with me.
2026-05-16 18:22:57
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Cole :
yesssss to christus victor!!
2026-05-16 23:56:07
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JanieSueCo :
We never owed God a debt for our sins. We owed Justice the debt. Crimes require punishment. God is divine and just and to have relation with Him we must be perfect and sinless. Not because He requires it but because oil doesn’t mix with water. He sent us “the way” to His Throne because He loves us and wants us to be with Him. In other words — He knows we sin and are guilty of it but He still loves us and wants to be with us and sent us provision. Hope that helps.
2026-06-13 15:46:39
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Phoenix :
I understand, and as a counter argument I would suggest reading the book of Hebrews, though I’m sure you have. “Forgiveness” isn’t just pretending everything is alright and saying “Well let’s move on.” There has to be something done. An atonement, which Hebrews talks about many times. God is also infinitely just AND infinitely merciful. You brought up in one of your comments questioning why he is “more just than merciful” and why he can’t be “more merciful than just.” But he is infinitely both (the doctrine of divine simplicity). This means we ARE saved by no work of our own (God’s mercy alone saves us), but where is his justice when it comes to our evil deeds? The sins of man need to be satisfied, and this was done through one Jesus the Christ (God’s justice working through grace).
2026-05-23 23:23:38
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funnyusername871 :
Isaiah 53:5...“He was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities.” 2 Corinthians 5:21...“God made him who had no sin to be sin for us”...and 1 Peter 2:24...“He himself bore our sins in his body on the cross.” Romans 3:25 is key: “God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood.” How do you make these fit into your viewpoint?
2026-05-21 00:38:34
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