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Matter-Dark :
So, like a lot of modern problems, this can be tied back to Ronald Reagan?
2026-05-27 00:10:58
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Some Guy on The Internet :
the 90s marketing was the worst mistake. if you advertised Animal Crossing (2001) in the states like New Horizons (2020); the buying power would have been noticed.
2026-05-27 00:50:30
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casey :
ive not done any actual research either but im a girl and ive played like 5,000 hours of league of legends and i can confidently say you are correct
2026-05-27 00:01:09
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GBeezey :
video games was literally just a flip of the coin in American toy stores. its kinda wild
2026-05-27 03:08:38
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Stephen :
I buy it
2026-05-27 13:05:43
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Dr. izmo :
You know....I think you're onto something there...🧐
2026-05-27 00:27:22
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Mac Attac :
So based on what I know about the eras and movements you discuss, I don’t think you’re too far off.
2026-05-27 12:46:58
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Hjualmandra_Kanathara :
It’s actually cuz of toy advertising/ manufacturing in the 1980’: here’s the Book: “Of Games and Men: A History of Video Games, Play, and Policy by Clara Fernández-Vara and Grete Mitchell
2026-05-27 18:33:19
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Phantomcrossing :
Yes.
2026-05-27 02:05:11
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yarronrod :
I can say from my own experience is both a nerd and someone who was heavily impacted by satanic panic growing up in the south in 1970s and 80s that I think the interests of girls is much more heavily policed than boys. I know my mother banned me from playing Dungeons & Dragons with the understanding that if she ever called me, I would be kicked out and disowned. So naturally, I went to work for the local board game store that sold D&D and played shadowrun and called Cthulhu instead. Even in those spaces in the late 80s and early 90s it was predominantly male like the board game store customers however much more accepting of the women who are in that space it was 60/40 maybe - not 95/5. I had guy friends who were allowed to listen to all the death metal they wanted to, but their sisters didn’t have that freedom.
2026-05-27 00:54:09
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Tom :
why you said women have been the backbone i thought to myself “just like that youtube video i watched” and then remembered it was yours
2026-05-27 02:17:29
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✨️🪷🤦♀️🌺✨️ :
There was a big drive in the 70s and early 80s to gender neutralize toys. The toy companies claimed sales dropped, that people didn't like that, so there was a bit of overcorrection back the other way
2026-05-27 17:29:39
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Atheninphoenix :
Always thought the idea of nerds not having sex was absolutely hilarious. We have more and better sex than anyone haha
2026-05-27 15:44:44
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Ro :
It also has a lot to do with girls and boys sections when they started making video games they had to decide where to put them in the store and it was entirely marketed toward young boys.
2026-05-29 12:38:57
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James Vincent :
many emergent cultural movements will experience resistance from established cultural norms. All social movements will water down and move towards each other, something something something Overton window?? my general understanding is that seeks were completely desegregated between men and women, until the Islamic population in the area required them to separate by the sexes. and that was made as a compromise.
2026-06-02 12:33:14
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Gracklewitch :
@Chelsey Weber-Smith would have a lot to say about this, I think.
2026-05-27 02:45:52
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a13 m :
@Dr. C
2026-05-27 14:10:13
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Scrunglo :
I also think that the satanic panic served to make nerd groups more insular, because only fellow nerds would understand them- and because they were awkward around women in general, women weren't considered part of that in group. So when those nerds saw women in nerdy spaces, they viewed as an invasion of some sacred brotherhood rather than realizing they had been there the whole time just excluded
2026-05-26 23:40:35
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meowmers_33 :
Satanic panic also felt like a way to continue normalizing racism against Asian people (post-WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War) with how anime and yoga was demonized. Especially stuff like pokemon and yugioh.
2026-05-27 00:19:34
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Kilburning :
That's probably part of it, but I think that the misogyny of the people making things is probably the biggest factor. For example, Gary Gygax was a self-described bioessentialist and his attitudes on race and gender kept a lot of people out of the hobby and that predated the satanic panic
2026-05-27 01:37:52
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SorchaPie :
Woman and girls in spaces that are gender neutral or masculine is ignored by marketing and writing campaigns because there has been a long standing “wisdom” that boys will not play with girl toys or read/watch things with female leads. Girls will though so if you ignore them they will still show up.
2026-05-27 03:07:05
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Michael Phillips :
A lot of it was there much earlier. even though women made up a big chunk of fandoms. they weren't really acknowledged as such. one of my favorite science fiction authors changed her name so that she wouldn't sound as much like a woman on book covers because the boys club that was science fiction was very exclusionary toward female authors. And probably the straightest of the three big SF authors of the 20th century was kind of gross and gropey and women who were working at conventions because they were active and fandom. we're told not to ever be alone in a room with him. also, e.g.g was interviewed several times and claimed that women and girls really mostly didn't have the brain to play dungeons and dragons and specifically he said he had never sold a copy of the game to a woman. I recognize this largely because a friend's mom has a canceled check for the copy of D&D that she bought directly from him before he gave that interview. And we can track down a bunch of other gross nerd space stuff from before the '80s. they can't be Reagan's fault unless it came out of California
2026-05-27 04:35:02
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Doctor Forrester :
Okay so with the video gaming nerds, it's a combination of Nintendo and Atari's fault. Before Atari crashed, the market, video games systems were sold in the electronics department along with TVs, radios, etc. While many games May have been marketed to boys, video games were largely a gender-neutral thing. Then Atari crashes the damn market, and the next video game system that actually takes off is the NES. Which was put in the toy aisle. And toys in the '80s just HAD to be marketed to one gender or the other, so the NES was put into the boys toys. Which is ironic, given the company's general push to have it be seen as a family video game system with a large number of titles meant to be appealing to all demographics with its handheld market and the Wii
2026-05-27 16:58:01
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Nicole 🏳️⚧️ 🇵🇸 :
People love to gender hobbies, it's so dumb. Humans like doing things, why do they need to be put in boxes. When I came out as trans my cousin asked if I was going to stop working on cars "because I'm a girl now". Dumb, so dumb.
2026-05-28 06:01:04
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NottheWriter :
yep I'd agree with that but also its cuz women told each other where the toxic men were & those men grew up to make new content look at big bang theory, the reason there are no women at their main comic book store is because all the female nerds in the city know to avoid it (& because female fans have been avoiding toxic male fans, the writers of BBT grew up not seeing any women because they're incredibly toxic POS)
2026-05-27 03:43:31
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