So there is nothing that says ‘what it’s like to be’ is not the result of process… in fact we neuroscientists would agree, ptrocess
2026-06-01 19:59:24
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Z18029 :
Ok. So that would not be consciousness that would be perception . Thats the subject experience to be . Consciousness simply means direction and in that case, time itself is an early emergent form of consciousness
2026-05-30 21:23:40
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That_Guy_who_exists :
Objects of Consciousness are Temporal, but the Subject of Consciousness isn’t. The fact that Consciousness is able to recognize itself as temporal means it is not bound by these determinations.
2026-05-30 21:40:22
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Carrinabeth :
yeah definitely not
2026-05-31 00:24:55
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Brad B :
Consciousness cannot be analyzed or observed because consciousness IS that which analyzes and observes
2026-06-07 04:35:43
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big.dog.matt :
Go live
2026-05-30 21:26:53
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MathofLogic :
but experience is a description processual interactions and entirely relational. the argument has literally no back up definition beyond a description of a relational process, reified into an indescribable entity.
also requires consciousness to be non thermodynamic.
this argument posits an indescribable object. the thing.
so its just substance ontology.
if its not substance ontology, which is bare particular and reification based, and its not process ontology based which points out the bare particulars are doing zero explanitory work and cant be defined without presuming them.
then what ontology are you in here.
like saying "what it is to be" which is a violates thermodynamics because how does becoming ever pause to BE which is the static substance variation of becoming.
what is the actual ontology here
2026-05-31 10:30:04
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