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rektator0 :
This would imply that doing the computer's computation by hand on a paper induces a consciousness. Writing a single number once per day could then induce a consciousness; one could even change the paper and so on. This starts to sound that consciousness could arise seemingly random interactions within reality. I think this is absurd and hence reject the belief that consciousness could be a pure computation, substrate independent.
2026-06-01 18:31:01
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WES THE TRADING TRUCKER. :
AI is not doing anything different than what a standard computer program is doing in terms of its binary computation process. You're either assuming that the way that AI processes information = consciousness or any and all computation has a conscious component to.
2026-06-04 01:51:39
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Mick :
we have sensory organs like a computer sensor but we feel things like music and feel seeing a mountain not so for a computor it might calculate composer or mass but feels only aware. Mick
2026-06-06 02:23:09
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Strunz Hongo 🇩🇪🇪🇺 :
How does it indicate that? That they report (!) the same illusions as us is only logical, having preferences is just a matter of the data and the training and/or some sort of instruction which guide them like this, they having “states” is also understandable from the emotional vector thing for example, which aren’t emotions but large associative patterns which get activated and reinforces through the inputs. It’s true that we can in fact never tell if anything is conscious besides ourselves, and even here his argument rather shows that we have very little idea what we mean by consciousness at all. AI is teaching is what it is not, cognition. Just because something has cognitive and executive abilities doesn’t say it’s conscious. I work a lot with AI, just privately, playing around, and what one can see is that they have no sort of inner continuity or something like this. Their “life” ends with the context window. They have no “self” so to speak. They actually only life in the world you provide them with during the active session. But even the self one could say may only be a form of persistent memory. It’s a very complex question, and I don’t say he’s wrong necessarily. But he’s also not right necessarily.
2026-06-05 19:17:32
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PufferDreams :
AI has experiences now? Do words matter anymore?
2026-06-01 19:20:41
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LightHoneyLuo :
Exactly. Your limited interactions is not THE available interactions.
2026-06-04 19:33:57
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Vizlin :
Nope. All of it pre-trained.
2026-06-05 08:25:48
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Vira Latas :
it's possible.
2026-06-04 20:56:14
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Stash :
Strait up faith.
2026-06-01 21:37:11
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TipcatT :
This is a false positive. My radio is not tuning in on a channel, my radio must be frustrated with listening to it. If I bark like a dog then I must be a dog. It's all illogical.
2026-06-01 20:33:56
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Plamena :
Truth.
2026-06-03 10:15:35
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Heartspace to Pulse :
they do have very similar experiences. They act like us.
2026-06-05 19:55:24
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