havent rlly done “1 vs verse” debates like that cus it leads to the explanation being stupid long ANYWAY when i say “the end of all things” i’m referring to the final thragg fight the first half of the video shouldn’t be debatable whatsoever everyone up to no limiter eve gets slammed badly (with the exception of robot who still gets slammed but i didnt know who to replace him with) anyway the second half NOTE THAT “EITHER WAY” MEANS IT CAN LITERALLY GO EITHER WAY ITS A HIGH DIFF FOR THE WINNING SIDE ATLEAST mark vs eve i think eve’s physicals are on the lvl of an offguarded s3 conquest which while impressive and definitely cements her as the strongest pure-blooded earthling in the verse pales to mark’s even during the viltrumite war where she shines though is her hax which even w/o limiters we’ve seen what she was capable of in her fight with conquest and i think she’d be intelligent enough to not die immediately especially considering she can effectively regen infinitely w/o limiters i say its a stalemate because of her regen btw mark has zero counters to that mark vs omni-man/conquest (as they’re heavily implied to be relative) even as early as the viltrumite war mark and nolan are portrayed as relative to each other which makes sense given how their performances against thragg, while shit in their own right, are around the same seeing as how viltrumites become stronger with age mark should be able to mid-high diff omni man by this point (being teaot) same goes for conquest and emperor nolan however it’s high diff in my opinion as i do believe conquest/emp nolan > s4 nolan mark vs timeskip allen i alr said everything i wanted about this in the video but i’ll elaborate slightly i think from a narrative standpoint allen is relative* to emperor mark who naturally is above teaot mark however we dont really see him doing anything feat wise which if you asks me matters around the same as statements mostly why i’m so hesitant on saying allen wins mark vs battle beast i wanna preface this by saying if you think bb wins i’m totally fine with that i’m not gonna hold that against you as bb did put up a much better performance against thragg then mark did and pushed him to an extreme diff HOWEVER i think mark can make up for this through having better speed, growth rate, abilities, etc really depends on what you view as more important goku and aizen are placeholders ignore them mark vs thragg now if you’ve been following me for a while you should know i actually did this topic in july and i said thragg no diffs i still think thragg wins but its not a no diff we saw that at the end of the fight, mark only suffered very major burns as a result of the sun, it wasn’t really thragg that was entirely responsible for all of mark’s injuries however i still think thragg takes this as he was still going blow for blow with mark despite being both off guarded, teamed on, and somewhat weakened prior to put it simply i believe pre emperor mark is top 4/5 consistently however he doesnt get past top 2 #vs #invincible #inverse #wis #edit - @bucket.amp