@hoolie_r: There are people who have it worse than I ever did. There are people who are direct targets for recruitment. I was never in those shoes. But being poor is not a strong enough argument for joining and then continuing to participate in US imperialism, particularly if you are in a combat role. We should constantly push back against imperial propaganda, funnel money into services and career pathways that eliminate the K-12 to military pipeline, and stop assuming that people who criticize military members are simply privileged and that’s that. #hottake #unitedstates #propaganda #military

Xxx_EvilSmurf_xxX :

Being poor isn’t an excuse to kill people

Arabella🌀🦋 :

No because if you join the military voluntarily you are just as bad as cops

sleep mode oblivion :

Americans won’t admit it since it sounds like socialism, but most science and research in the US is done under “defense”. Every piece of tech we use today, cars, phones, internet etc.. comes from military. If your kid turned out to be an engineering genius, their options would be either in the private sector working for someone like musk, or public service.

ZombieNikon :

You don’t think it’s honorable? I agree there are bad cops. Even bad people in the military. The job has to get done who is going to do it? There are always going to be criminals and very bad people in the world.

Nick Ribaudo :

The biggest demographic is “middle income,”. It’s military families lol

Mr. NoteWordy :

"Don't blame the cogs in the machine for what the machine does" is such a stupid take.

paul is not paranoid :

Most people in the military are middle class.

jiyan :

Police aren't inherently bad they're necessary to keep order

Michael :

Thank you, Julie! I’ll admit that a lot vets revert to Islam but I still will never forgive them as a Muslim. It’s so hard because my family built 7 Muslim community centers and i really don’t believe they can ever repent or should ever be forgiven but I can’t say it because it’s a “sin” 🙄.

StayMad :

Within the US military, the poorest and richest quintiles are underrepresented. Does not see like they’re targeting the poor very effectively.

🕯️Cassandra🕯️ :

I got through my first degree using tuition reimbursement from one of my previous employers. I’m going back to complete my bachelors through my current employer. You do not have to join the military to get an education.

blonde :

I agree with everything youre saying my but only question for you is what do you think the solution to all of this would be?Morally I agree stopping this is the right thing to do but i feel like another country would just do the exact same thing to us if we just stopped

Eli🏳️‍⚧️ :

Growing up I always wanted to be a Forensic scientist and work on unsolved cases as an Adult I still want to do this but I don’t want to work directly with the police I want to find another option so bad

squirtle🐢 :

Do you think more women being cops can change the system

Chatty Matty 6.0 :

I just learned that only 10% of military recruits are considered "low-income / poor" 49% are labeled as Top 40% of household income quintile

The Boss :

Prior navy here. For context, I had no direction in life and was scared. I was injured during boot and lost my ability to walk correctly now for the rest of my life. if I could go back in time with the one caviat being i wouldn't know id get hurt, I wouldn't go back. it's not worth it. there's too much going on that I wasn't aware of at the time.

🪩🍒 ☭ stephanie ☭ 🍒🪩 :

Idk if anyone will see this but if your family household makes under $250k, there are colleges that will cover your tuition. They’re often very competitive schools, like basically every Ivy and T20 does this, and the income threshold varies. For example, UChicago will cover tuition, housing, food, and fees if your family’s combined income is under $125k

egwood :

So I understand your point let me ask you a couple things. So my house was broken into years ago someone broken in and stole a lock box that I had. It didn’t have a lot in it. It had a little bit of money. It had my birth certificate and some other document. Now I don’t know who did it, but there were some folks in uniform who came and dusted for prints and they investigated those for the police officers and they were able to track down the person who did it. No, why do I have to hold them individuals to the same standard as the agents of the state with ICE who are doing what they’re doing?

landminegirl420 :

Agreed!

memoriemel :

coming back when it’s not lagging 🫶🏻

GamerMuslimDad | LoneWolfSeVeN :

You’re amazing.

LaQuntay Reid :

I learned so much being in, let’s just say I would never allow my kids to join

Greg 🔻 :

When people are making the “veterans think they were doing a good thing” argument, do they think people join ice/IDF/cops/etc. just because they’re actively trying to be evil? They also think that those organizations are good, and they’re equally wrong.

weѕlιceтнιcĸ :

theSerenaBlessed :

I agree