@elvisvb: Coaches who use heart rate monitors in practice are wasting their time and money

unknownusername :

worst take of all time. That's actually the worst thing I have ever heard. literally all of endurance sports know that this completely and utterly wrong

KayMc :

Only train in the zone you’re racing in? That’s a ridiculous statement.

Kaleb.bevington :

Say you know nothing ab heart rate trading without saying it

ChickenAlfredo :

You can’t be serious

☃️ :

I’m not supporting or defending it directly, but the Sandpipers aren’t just some random club. They’ve put a bunch of swimmers at the Olympic level in recent years: Claire Weinstein, Erica Sullivan, Katie Grimes, Bella Sims, Ilya Kharun

akra_pov :

“You need to be training in the zone you’re competing in” lmaooooooo

Tom :

Absolutely loads. Good quality HR data can pick up on trends like over training, nutrition status, lactate thresholds (LT1, LT2), Ventilatory threshold, lacte and power curve, training stress (Acute and Cronin training load, TRIMP), recovery status. Also correct training zones. Look up the 80:20 rule popularised by Stephen Siler. Yes, limited information for that one race. No, don’t train in the zone you race in - endurance training has gone far beyond that concept

Graham :

miss

matron008 :

litteraly all the top endurance athletes use heart rate monitors as a integral part of their training

liamswimsfast :

For some reason I accidentally deleted my comment which deleted yours. But to answer the response you gave of meeting a universal standard…having a universal standard for meeting a HR can’t happen. If you try to have a universal standard for a HR you are trying to create a one size fits all program (which will never work) like I said…some athletes react differently to training than others. Were HR monitors prove useful is differentiating your athletes between each other, and knowing how each one responds to different training. For example…Mark and Justin’s both have a recovery session of 2x (8x100) on 1:40 the goal is to keep there HR to 110-140bpm (as that indicates they are not over exerting themselves) this allows you as a coach to do several things. 1. You can possibly identify which athlete needs more aerobic work 2. If mark is exceeding the HR range but keeping a same pace as Justin it could be that he didn’t sleep well, is dehydrated, not recovering well, etc (all things you can have conversation with your athlete about to identify) 3. If Marks Hr is higher than 110-140 and he is out swimming Justin (you are now able to identify that he is over exerting himself for the required goal of the workout). There is a lot more examples I can come up with to. Ultimately HR monitor alone isn’t the only method you should use as a coach to understand your athletes, but it is a damn good one if not necessary for elite swimmers.

moritz.markitz :

Kamehameha :

There is almost certainly some useful info to be gleaned from HR data

hps :

To reach peak fitness at a specific event, the correct balance of high intensity training and recovery is required. This can be monitored very well with heart rate data. A high cardiac drift during exercise for example can be an indicator that the athlete needs recovery. So, even if you do not use heart rate to control the intensity during an individual exercise, it can be very useful for training periodization.

Opdebeeck_Lars :

Why do you think cyclist spend 12+ hours in the low zones

MattJones.RAW :

its more about the lessons you can learn by tracking data over time. exact same time, distance, number of lengths, turn around etc one week to the next but your heart rate decreases as a trend over that time? youve learned you can push harder

ryan :

so marathon runners must run the whole distance, because the previous 30+ kilometers meant nothing, totally sound logic mate

DJW Masters Swimming :

I feel like this is more of a criticism of training styles not the use of the actual HR monitor? I could see the HR monitor being useful for aerobic training/ lactate threshold training or lactate tests. However the question is then, is this the correct method of training and should they be doing more race pace work

KARINA :

So heart rate monitoring is actually a cheat code for building fitness, I’m not sure you grasp the knowledge required to understand why this is key for training 😅

gutterrat369 :

I would only use it to check warm up trends… how much heart rate stuff do you need while warming up in order to swim your fastest. Also, putting them on while warming down to see how much you really need in order to perform optimally

Pherb :

Idk how heart a HR monitor outside of a cap and over hair could possibly be accurate?

Pseudo_Redhead :

I used to think HR data was cool, but HS track was all it took to realize the exercise is effort based. HR is to volatile. is it hot out? did I have a cup of coffee? Any given workout has a wide range of heart rates. Just go by performance (lap time) and effort (perceived exertion).

Sotelo 🦇 :